From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bastien Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: My emacs was upgraded and I am a novice again Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 09:08:23 +0200 Message-ID: <87fy132peg.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> References: <46F2BA57.3060604@gmail.com> <87fy16q8kq.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> <87y7evbsan.fsf@leonardo.iesahin.net> <85myvbguly.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1190704137 11889 80.91.229.12 (25 Sep 2007 07:08:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 07:08:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 25 09:08:53 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Ia4XM-0008DN-PG for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 09:08:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ia4XJ-0001hc-Rf for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 03:08:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ia4X5-0001hP-Ue for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 03:08:35 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ia4X4-0001hC-2K for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 03:08:35 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ia4X3-0001h9-TP for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 03:08:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ia4X2-0008Nz-VU for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 03:08:33 -0400 Original-Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.184]) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ia4X2-0004Gh-9p for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 03:08:32 -0400 Original-Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id f5so1433336nfh for ; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 00:08:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:sender; bh=43AYb+toYe6Eb+O7JHO817PSS3LQKpNoFPfUHvgF2Ww=; b=RiV4QeacuDq/bIJuXk3OzWIxcDnSQ1XQbAihxzdo0p+6hgGGGFBYVBWGLIRrZfJtOwDDlZiey3m+/ZHglDeJ+5Q4t0dYWBCzrsNbJCMT/mVOffK3CQDr+lC+GAeDLhrhLOrehZrkhDKf/7DQpWbZ+8lets/cIUfzQM7qQbw9aj8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=received:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:sender; b=cWWYtvRd+N+BRoRLjYAEbxuCDl250Db9hO5oHNl9nhyBZNlKq6o4hC8kjZQue81RPpX/qvW24EtGUSHCOfjWV4QDC2WBWeBBWXjLevlfNT1C0LkjcyywuZ/PLtGLRuVXOzpk5yAgCSuuEraFkcjF+ee3ltI0VZstnnAWBoXTJ+E= Original-Received: by 10.86.50.8 with SMTP id x8mr5384649fgx.1190704110387; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 00:08:30 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from bzg.ath.cx ( [88.138.197.242]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p38sm12400033fke.2007.09.25.00.08.28 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 25 Sep 2007 00:08:29 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by bzg.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7CC4D157998; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 09:08:23 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <85myvbguly.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (David Kastrup's message of "Tue, 25 Sep 2007 07:52:09 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/23.0.0 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:47830 Archived-At: David Kastrup writes: > Bastien writes: > >> Emre Sahin writes: >> >>> Then, today, when I was changing the face for mode line from *Customize >>> Group: Mode Line Faces*, I saw something like "Display Time Mail Face" >>> which is reported to change the display of "display-time-mail-string" >>> variable. I C-h v'd it, and voila! >> >> I've been (unsuccessfully) looking for this yesterday -- thanks :) > > I am always surprised by people who apparently copy random junk from > some third party source into their Emacs startup file, then complain > that they find themselves unable to get rid of its effects. I guess your not targetting this at Emre/me? I was just telling Emre that the very name of the variable `display-time-mail-string' was what I was looking for. > Ask the person which you got the stuff from, if all else fails. Very true. Add a source (if possible the e-mail address of the person who pointed to the code) and some kind of rationale for every piece of code you insert in your startup file. Wise advice. Regards, -- Bastien