From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: pjb@informatimago.com (Pascal J. Bourguignon) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Which is the best implementation of LISP family of languages for real world programming ? Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 20:55:13 +0200 Organization: Informatimago Message-ID: <87fx0pqwa6.fsf__47289.9990542375$1291834573$gmane$org@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> References: <19522f8e-d5b5-4b6f-942b-423602e44993@z10g2000yqb.googlegroups.com> <68daa4d8-6da7-4b97-a77e-264c1f515e75@u7g2000yqm.googlegroups.com> <87ljakrpq5.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1291834573 25932 80.91.229.12 (8 Dec 2010 18:56:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 18:56:13 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 08 19:56:09 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PQPBL-0001Fo-3v for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2010 19:56:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55982 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PQPBK-0008H4-Jo for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2010 13:56:02 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help, comp.lang.lisp, comp.lang.scheme, comp.lang.python, comp.lang.javascript Original-Lines: 44 Original-X-Trace: individual.net gwldhHLT1qShgNEG2MN4CARo1JbZwN0bSbmgA9TQm+k6GJpbeL Cancel-Lock: sha1:ZDg3NjMwMzIzYjNjOGFjOTJhZjBlZTRhOWM3YzUyZjI3ZDdkYjI0OA== sha1:xQ+zH7bisG/Pd5KK34a9pPP0o/E= Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwAQMAAABtzGvEAAAABlBMVEUAAAD///+l2Z/dAAAA oElEQVR4nK3OsRHCMAwF0O8YQufUNIQRGIAja9CxSA55AxZgFO4coMgYrEDDQZWPIlNAjwq9 033pbOBPtbXuB6PKNBn5gZkhGa86Z4x2wE67O+06WxGD/HCOGR0deY3f9Ijwwt7rNGNf6Oac l/GuZTF1wFGKiYYHKSFAkjIo1b6sCYS1sVmFhhhahKQssRjRT90ITWUk6vvK3RsPGs+M1RuR mV+hO/VvFAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Accept-Language: fr, es, en X-Disabled: X-No-Archive: no User-Agent: Gnus/5.101 (Gnus v5.10.10) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:178938 comp.lang.lisp:289161 comp.lang.scheme:87009 comp.lang.python:635026 comp.lang.javascript:603640 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:75837 Archived-At: "Antti \"Andy\" Ylikoski" writes: > 12.6.2010 22:54, Pascal J. Bourguignon kirjoitti: >> bolega writes: >>> >>>> [PAIP] >>> >>> Is there anything in this old norvig book that makes it worth >>> pursuing as a text ? >> >> Yes. >> > > I agree with his criticism that the book is "old", mine stems from the > year 1992. That's not "old". An old book is one that is falling in powder when you're reading it. Eg. the Quran manuscripts are "old". But any book since Gutenberg's invention is not old. For a book, that is. > I bought and studied the Russell-Norvig books on "Artificial > Intelligence: A Modern Approach", ie. the 1th, 2nd (and in the future > the 3rd edition), in order to learn modern AI theory. They have > discontinued the 3rd edition but I succeeded in ordering a copy > anyway. I have read the 1st and the 2nd editions, but I have not yet > received by mail the 3rd edition. > > But I only got the PAIP book to learn Common LISP, not in order to > study modern AI. This is why I'm discussing this in the > new:comp.lang.LISP newsgroup. > > Any good modern LISP textbooks out there? > > Can anyone point to me any other good modern textbooks on AI than the > 3rd edition of the Russell-Norvig book? (Which is reputable.) If we said it is the last AI book written using Lisp, would that make it worth reading? There's nothing newer in AI! :-) -- __Pascal Bourguignon__ http://www.informatimago.com/