From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: .emacs poser Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 04:16:04 +0100 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <87fvpsp3oy.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> References: <87wqj4p720.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1387250414 9803 80.91.229.3 (17 Dec 2013 03:20:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 03:20:14 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 17 04:20:21 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VslCn-0006xn-5o for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 04:20:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59484 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VslCm-0003Wp-PA for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 22:20:20 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.kjsl.com!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!news.stack.nl!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 62 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: VVbyYd/iFZoeWNmD9i++cQ.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:KnP4fWtgYmmThczPSvfOaaPRscQ= Mail-Copies-To: never Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:202769 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:95038 Archived-At: Dale Snell writes: > That said, the only chord there is the C-x. The rest > are a sequence of keystrokes. It doesn't matter. It is too many hits to do too little. > I can't speak for European keyboards. The US layout is better for programming but those chars are not as goofy as those you use. Semi-colon, and all the brackets, are better placed on the US layout keyboard, and for whatever language-specific chars you need, there is the compose key. Which by the way is another solution that I think is much better than setting this up in Emacs. > and the ever popular copyright (©), trademark (™), > and registered trademark signs (®). Serious? > If I need anything more demanding, like en and em > dashes, or primes instead of quotes, I'll fire up a > text processor A word processor? Like OpenOffice or Word? > and go that way. Of course, in a purely text forum, > like this, someone would undoubtedly complain if I > were to attach the entire message as a PDF. Yes. PDF is for things to be *printed*, like manuals, or scientific work with need for special notation. > There are certain organizations that want their > documents written in a certain format, which may > include Pilcrow and Section marks, and other such > things. Happily, I don't deal with those. (Again, > I'd use LaTeX or Groff for that.) Groff! Wow, you are a man (pun) of many surprises. Is that used outside of the Unix manpages world? LaTeX is great obviously. I would drop the word processor and use Emacs (or Vim) + LaTeX. > That's limiting yourself. If you need accented > characters, learn how to enter them in a general way, > not just specific words. It is not about *ability*, it is about *speed* and *ergonomics* and *limiting the mental effort* when doing a routine thing, as typing. To memorize and type some four or five hit combination just to get a goofy char that is (almost) never used doesn't make sense. -- Emanuel Berg, programmer-for-rent. CV, projects, etc at uXu underground experts united: http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573