From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: RTF for emacs Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 01:49:05 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <87fvk012fi.fsf@debian.uxu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1400889024 6470 80.91.229.3 (23 May 2014 23:50:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 23:50:24 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat May 24 01:50:19 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WnzEA-0007uC-UA for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 24 May 2014 01:50:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46081 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WnzEA-0002oo-Ec for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 May 2014 19:50:18 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.kjsl.com!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!news.stack.nl!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 47 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: u+UUXbnu1hlDFr5pMibebQ.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:EsEEPkGnH/+GnDgR5CJ82Cso+2A= Mail-Copies-To: never Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:205529 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:97799 Archived-At: Rasmus writes: > I'm not aware of any RTF initiatives. Did you try > Org? It outputs to odt, html and LaTeX. Yeah. Question to the OP: Why do you want "RTF"? For e-mails, Usenet posts, README files, everything short and neat - plain text will do (is superior, because it is so easy to deal with for everyone, and so fast to do so, and so enjoyable to type...). For the odd very-fancy-looking manual or MS degree techno-science thesis - LaTeX obviously, which you can enter plain in Emacs (no need for Org) and compile. PDFs are great for advanced documents (with special notation etc.) and for large documents (e.g., books) that are expected to be read by humans - documents that are likely to be printed (and, when done, not expected to change a lot save for an occasional additional chapter or so, and typos fixed). A lot of PDFs shouldn't be PDFs, though (as I see it). A two-page essay with 4-6 paragraphs and no illustrations or special notation - why use PDF for this? Use plain text: faster, lighter, and much easier for everyone else to use in whatever way they prefer. HTML for webpages (of course): again type direct in Emacs (again no need for Org). If you are ever so lucky as to write a brand-new tool for some Unix-system - groff (GNU runoff or roff) - groff to do the man page (saliva in my mouth just thinking of it). (Also the GNU ancient-empire "info" tool has a markup system which I'm unfamiliar with.) Really, what *is* the use-case for "RTF"? But I'm sorry I can't answer your question - but the reason I can't is I never saw the need to use it. -- underground experts united: http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573