From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: member returns list Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2015 04:32:23 +0200 Message-ID: <87fv2nhumg.fsf@debian.uxu> References: <87bndfauey.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <87wpw0e58f.fsf@robertthorpeconsulting.com> <87si6n822t.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1441852414 20345 80.91.229.3 (10 Sep 2015 02:33:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2015 02:33:34 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 10 04:33:19 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZZrfo-0002dQ-O8 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2015 04:33:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46481 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZZrfn-00035J-Vp for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2015 22:33:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37682) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZZrfb-000341-NT for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2015 22:33:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZZrfN-00006K-Fs for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2015 22:33:03 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:53603) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZZrfN-00005Y-8B for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2015 22:32:49 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZZrfH-00023A-DJ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2015 04:32:43 +0200 Original-Received: from nl106-137-244.student.uu.se ([130.243.137.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 2015 04:32:43 +0200 Original-Received: from embe8573 by nl106-137-244.student.uu.se with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 2015 04:32:43 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 24 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: nl106-137-244.student.uu.se Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:DuxhLDZH66fa55+FOlzvIcQhb7A= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:107110 Archived-At: "Pascal J. Bourguignon" writes: >> I prefer Lisp for several reasons ... But that >> doesn't mean C is as bad as described. > > Somebody is in need of reading the Unix Hater > Handbook. http://web.mit.edu/simsong/www/ugh.pdf Ha ha, curse me for a servo-droid! Actually I love when you suggest books, especially when they are self-contained PDFs which can be printed free of charge. (Thanks to Drew for the history book while I'm at it.) Why don't you do a Lisp OS with Lisp-only software? Are there any particularly impressive Lisp programs I can try? A window manager, for example? -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573