From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Is gnu.emacs.gnus dead? Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 20:12:49 +0100 Message-ID: <87fuzekr7y.fsf@debian.uxu> References: <84twp227ry.fsf@example.com> <86vb8b45o8.fsf@example.com> <84twnu1c8h.fsf@example.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1449515619 14459 80.91.229.3 (7 Dec 2015 19:13:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 19:13:39 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 07 20:13:27 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a61Dy-0007I2-Sv for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 20:13:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56094 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a61Dy-0000bm-9j for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 14:13:26 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45347) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a61Dh-0000ZI-Ck for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 14:13:10 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a61De-0000sC-5B for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 14:13:09 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:43676) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a61Dd-0000s8-V1 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 14:13:06 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a61Da-0006ae-PS for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 20:13:02 +0100 Original-Received: from nl106-137-244.student.uu.se ([130.243.137.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 20:13:02 +0100 Original-Received: from embe8573 by nl106-137-244.student.uu.se with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 20:13:02 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 45 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: nl106-137-244.student.uu.se Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:lWmG+ee2ei5VkEwxc1hc//rDGi4= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:108331 Archived-At: David Hume writes: > Here is what I see in my list of groups for this > group: > > 46: nntp+news.gmane.org:gmane.emacs.help > > But I cannot post to it, it says: > > "Couldn't send message via news: 441 Article has no > body -- just headers " That error message sounds like some standard one in the spirit of the web server error codes but Googling it (front-page) shows only references from lists/groups, and I can't find it in the RFCs or info or man pages. And I can't find it in the source and not in the binaries with strings(1). It must be somewhere tho so keep looking... It seems to indicate your post has just headers, and no body. If you think differently, check out if this variable is set in accordance: mail-header-separator If that is right, try sending the exact message to another destination - mail, nntp.aioe.org, whatever. Does it work using the same interface? > Maybe it is not sending it to the right server? If you have Gnus directed at nntp.aioe.org by default, and then you bring up the message buffer from somewhere else, no, you can't type gmane.emacs.help and send it, but even so it doesn't say the 441 stuff but something like there isn't such a newsgroup. However if you do it from the group buffer with point at the gmane group (with `gnus-group-post-news-to-group-at-point') then the server is setup automatically. -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573