From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Heerdegen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: minimize-frame ? Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2021 02:16:05 +0200 Message-ID: <87fsw78apm.fsf@web.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38108"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:JJ4RwTw06IfVlWZG1P1fEE1K4mk= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 22 02:16:40 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m6MOG-0009iF-TO for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 22 Jul 2021 02:16:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40194 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m6MOF-0001F3-Nj for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2021 20:16:39 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54574) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m6MNr-0001Eu-3a for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2021 20:16:15 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:49134) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m6MNp-0002Nk-5e for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2021 20:16:14 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m6MNn-00094Q-3O for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Jul 2021 02:16:11 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -13 X-Spam_score: -1.4 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.248, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.248, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:131988 Archived-At: David Masterson writes: > Is it possible to have Emacs control the window manager? For > instance, if I didn't want to use the mouse, could I setup a key to > minimize Emacs? `iconify-frame'? With some minimal setup it's possible to use Emacs in X even without any window manager. You then need to have the key bindings ready to position and remove frames and such stuff. Controlling a window manager is a different thing. Depends on the window manager then. Using xdotool or such things is probably easier. One can do a lot of things when one has a lot of time... There is also an "Emacs X Window Manager" called "EXWM" - my distribution tells: EXWM (Emacs X Window Manager) is a full-featured tiling X window manager for Emacs built on top of XELB. It features: * Fully keyboard-driven operations * Hybrid layout modes (tiling & stacking) * Dynamic workspace support * ICCCM/EWMH compliance * (Optional) RandR (multi-monitor) support * (Optional) Builtin system tray * (Optional) Builtin input method Homepage: https://github.com/ch11ng/exwm I've never tried it since I don't like tiling WMs. Also a WM written in Haskell exists, I guess this one would be controllable with Emacs, too. Or maybe ratpoison, the WM with "no rodent dependence". Since I use Emacs for most tasks anyway, I must say that I don't care that much about rodent...usage, maybe others want to share their experience. Michael.