From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: completing-read depricated initial-input Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2022 05:46:09 +0200 Message-ID: <87fsjx2we6.fsf@dataswamp.org> References: <86r13hubaw.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <86letphfke.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <87bkuljsvz.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29545"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:9+JQK33RV7FltfTlR8mbJwJLLxA= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 22 05:47:13 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o3rKj-0007Sn-Cn for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 22 Jun 2022 05:47:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59892 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o3rKh-0008Uz-R3 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 21 Jun 2022 23:47:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52922) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o3rJu-0008Un-CK for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jun 2022 23:46:25 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:40668) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o3rJs-0007hg-On for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jun 2022 23:46:22 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o3rJp-0006NE-V6 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Jun 2022 05:46:17 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:137977 Archived-At: Po Lu wrote: >> I agree that there are cases where INITIAL-INPUT still has >> its place, but as I said, I remember the reason for phasing >> it out was different than stylistic preferences. > > What other reason can there be? I can't think of any > non-stylistic reason to discourage using that argument. Maybe stop thinking about it and instead let your subconscious figure it out for you? Anyway this is what I think is the best interface: (let ((name "Danger")) (read-string (format "name: [%s] " name) nil nil name) ) You then see: name: [Danger] _ So if you hit RET you get the default (the suggestion), i.e. "Danger", if you print you print and if you want to edit "Danger" hit M-n and it's inserted only pint isn't moved. -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal