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From: Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl>
To: tomas@tuxteam.de
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs in a Corporate Environment
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2023 11:12:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fs915x0q.fsf@mbork.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZDpS1N5IznvAf+uk@tuxteam.de>


On 2023-04-15, at 09:31, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:

> On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 08:12:55AM +0200, Marcin Borkowski wrote:
>>
>> On 2023-04-14, at 18:11, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> > Anyway: my employers so far have decided that they can trust
>> > my judgement wrt data security, thanks $DEITY.
>>
>> That's of course a pleasant experience, but I still think this
>> discussion is worthwhile.
>
> For sure, and I am glad for that. Still, it's a bit jarring to me
> what people are willing to accept without complaints because it
> comes from $EMPLOYER. Did it come from the state, they'd all be
> yelling dictatorship (with a reason). Why does an employer get a
> free pass on that?

Good point.  I often think that slaves in antiquity, peasants in the
Middle Ages (which were much more civilized times than most people think
- in fact, it may be the case that the so-called "Middle Ages" were the
golden age of our civilization, and we have only declined since then, at
least in moral and political terms) and employees today are in a very
much similar position.  And quite possibly it was even better to be
a peasant 600 years ago than a corporate employee today.

> I mean: sometimes you have no choice if you want to go buy bread,
> but rationalising that behaviour goes too far for my taste.

You might be right, but I would be very cautious with judgements in
individual cases.  (But you know that already, of course.)

>> Also, I've seen e.g. reckless developers enamored by ChatGPT and
>> similar, LLM-based tools, happily providing company information to
>> them...
>
> Yes: trust in your employees is an investment: as an employer you
> have to put resources into education and into building a trust
> relationship. But it pays off handsomely.

Agreed.

> If, as an employer,  you insist into treating your employees as a
> disposable resource, you'll get every data leak you deserve.

Agreed, too.

Best,

-- 
Marcin Borkowski
http://mbork.pl



  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-15  9:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-12 19:48 Emacs in a Corporate Environment Yuan Cao
2023-04-12 20:10 ` Corwin Brust
2023-04-12 20:48   ` John Yates
2023-04-12 21:33     ` Yuan Cao
2023-04-13  0:08       ` Corwin Brust
2023-04-13 14:35         ` Marcin Borkowski
2023-04-14 14:36           ` Michael Albinus
2023-04-14 14:52             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-14 15:08               ` Óscar Fuentes
2023-04-14 15:47                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-14 16:11               ` tomas
2023-04-15  6:12                 ` Marcin Borkowski
2023-04-15  7:31                   ` tomas
2023-04-15  9:12                     ` Marcin Borkowski [this message]
2023-04-15  6:11               ` Marcin Borkowski
2023-04-15  7:17                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-15  7:34                   ` tomas
2023-04-15  7:59                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-15  8:21                       ` tomas
2023-04-15  9:41                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-15 11:16                           ` Po Lu
2023-04-15 12:04                             ` Marcin Borkowski
2023-04-15 12:18                               ` Ruijie Yu via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2023-04-15 13:22                               ` tomas
2023-04-15 18:45                               ` Michael Albinus
2023-04-15  6:10             ` Marcin Borkowski
2023-04-15 21:14             ` Björn Bidar
2023-04-16  7:51               ` Michael Albinus
2023-04-13 14:23       ` Marcin Borkowski
2023-04-13 17:23         ` Yuan Cao
2023-04-12 20:52 ` Jean Louis

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