From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Philip Kaludercic Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: define-package, use-package and recipe: which ones? Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2024 14:14:02 +0000 Message-ID: <87frn7sd79.fsf@posteo.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="34320"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Rudolf Schlatte Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 01 15:15:03 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1tHkj0-0008l2-AK for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 01 Dec 2024 15:15:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tHkiO-0001Tw-7f; Sun, 01 Dec 2024 09:14:24 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tHkiK-0001TV-UW for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Dec 2024 09:14:21 -0500 Original-Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tHkiG-0004Ta-Az for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Dec 2024 09:14:20 -0500 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0FF0C240101 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2024 15:14:03 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1733062444; bh=rAow3a5xWkvtdknTiATFzUx6I9ff42K5TW5CcZIo6AQ=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Autocrypt:OpenPGP:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type:From; b=Tle+Tt0rrzDi7x8sScuiJhE/s5FLfrHSoUqIKzKCH0qP34jS5BD1N8x7D8E464x6B 7BaXm9l+RYS7U+4W/XK9QZCicPGn8E4s6qm9WHoOfeeVTjOwhfZPEE+uff9A6jU0b1 60c8h56EJZ+VwYAdQraDntdFuuGttprlijuE1ZUQkEjR0IoNhCn7oyoI/eEUrp/Ww2 E+Ys6LCqEroZzhtZj70bVCzsT2wrsuHSfuATRivq4ehVe3KsGj4EuDTwNxp9HSoCDf htPZiEeRXVNfkrY88psEIIqHRIJFmn4VC3UUmlFWfq15dkcO9Lg7Yje06NRQJ9LHRX o+qP0V91PEv4A== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4Y1TRt72P2z6v09; Sun, 1 Dec 2024 15:14:02 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: (Rudolf Schlatte's message of "Sun, 01 Dec 2024 10:17:26 +0100") Autocrypt: addr=philipk@posteo.net; keydata= mDMEZBBQQhYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdAHJuofBrfqFh12uQu0Yi7mrl525F28eTmwUDflFNmdui0QlBo aWxpcCBLYWx1ZGVyY2ljIChnZW5lcmF0ZWQgYnkgYXV0b2NyeXB0LmVsKSA8cGhpbGlwa0Bwb3N0 ZW8ubmV0PoiWBBMWCAA+FiEEDg7HY17ghYlni8XN8xYDWXahwukFAmQQUEICGwMFCQHhM4AFCwkI BwIGFQoJCAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQ8xYDWXahwulikAEA77hloUiSrXgFkUVJhlKBpLCHUjA0 mWZ9j9w5d08+jVwBAK6c4iGP7j+/PhbkxaEKa4V3MzIl7zJkcNNjHCXmvFcEuDgEZBBQQhIKKwYB BAGXVQEFAQEHQI5NLiLRjZy3OfSt1dhCmFyn+fN/QKELUYQetiaoe+MMAwEIB4h+BBgWCAAmFiEE Dg7HY17ghYlni8XN8xYDWXahwukFAmQQUEICGwwFCQHhM4AACgkQ8xYDWXahwukm+wEA8cml4JpK NeAu65rg+auKrPOP6TP/4YWRCTIvuYDm0joBALw98AMz7/qMHvSCeU/hw9PL6u6R2EScxtpKnWof z4oM OpenPGP: id=philipk@posteo.net; url="https://keys.openpgp.org/vks/v1/by-email/philipk@posteo.net"; preference=signencrypt Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=philipk@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:148477 Archived-At: Rudolf Schlatte writes: > Marco Antoniotti writes: > >> 2. what is `use-package` used for then? > > It's an alternative way for loading packages, ... and installing in a declarative way. > replacing many forms with > one. Its use is optional; some people like it. Instead of writing > this: > > (add-to-list 'load-path "~/Source/foo-mode") > (add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.foo\\'" . foo-mode)) > (autoload #'foo-mode "foo-mode" nil t) > (setq foo-extras t) > > you can write this: > > (use-package foo-mode > :load-path "~/Source/foo-mode" > :commands (foo-mode) > :mode "\\.foo\\'" Where it is worth pointing out that these fields are usually not necessary any more, as well-written packages tend to have autoloads that include adjustments to `load-path' and similar variables. > :custom (foo-extras t))