From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Dumbing down Emacs 21 graphics? Date: 28 Dec 2002 12:02:25 +0900 Organization: Global Online Japan Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <87el82lubi.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1041044736 7203 80.91.224.249 (28 Dec 2002 03:05:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 03:05:36 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18S7I6-0001ru-00 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 2002 04:05:35 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18S7I5-00072o-01 for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Dec 2002 22:05:33 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!cyclone.bc.net!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!newsfeed.gol.com!203.216.70.8.MISMATCH!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 23 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: tc-2-178.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp Original-X-Trace: nnrp.gol.com 1041044546 6271 203.216.25.178 (28 Dec 2002 03:02:26 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@gol.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 03:02:26 +0000 (UTC) System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:108527 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:5056 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:5056 ruhl@4dv.net (Robert Uhl ) writes: > Why not simply run it in console mode? Unlike previous versions, 21 > offers text colours, hilighting &c. in console mode--and it's very > fast. The only oddities are things like C not skipping > paragraphs in text mode on the console. There _are_ other advantages to X -- true multiple frames, many more colors (in most terminals, you can only get 8 or 16 colors) better integration with X cut/paste, much better font support (multiple character sets, different sizes), 3D modelines :-), etc. [I guess there are terminal programs that can display multiple character sets using e.g. utf-8, but in my experience, they are very `brittle' -- unless you have the fonts on your system set up perfectly, you get chopped-off CJK characters, etc. Emacs is much more forgiving.] It would be nice if there was a single easy-to-use command that turned off all the X-bandwidth-hog parts of Emacs 21 (can the XIM stuff not be turned off at runtime?)... -Miles -- `Life is a boundless sea of bitterness'