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From: Michael Powe <michael@trollope.org>
Subject: Re: New Emacs with GTK!
Date: 19 Apr 2003 16:00:44 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87el3yxno3.fsf@cecilia.trollope.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 84smsg46kl.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de

>>>>> "Kai" == Kai Großjohann <kai.grossjohann@gmx.net> writes:

    Kai> dkcombs@panix.com (David Combs) writes:
    >> In article <87vfyai2ur.fsf@wassern.consult-meyers.com>,
    >> A. L. Meyers  <spamnjet@yahoo.de> wrote:
    >>> Don't be so sure, Niels.

    >>> The text console is alive and thriving, e. g. with the frame
    >>> buffer device, which may lead to a renaissance of the text
    >>> console.
    >>  What *is* this frame buffer device?

    Kai> It's a part of the Linux kernel and allows you to do more
    Kai> with the text console under Linux than a VT-100 can do.  (I
    Kai> gather you can show images with the framebuffer device and
    Kai> such.)

framebuffer will allow you to do "ansi" style graphics (the kind you
used to do on BBS all that long time ago).  svgalib on steriods.  it
also allows you to use proportional fonts.  but, my experience has
been that they look horrible in an ordinary monitor.  (i have a
gateway ev700 17", with a 32Mb radeon video card, e.g.) i prefer plain
old "terminal" output.  i can't even love the syntax highlighting in
the console from the latest emacs.

the problem with framebuffer is that you can't hide the fact that a
pixel is not square, so "squares" on the screen are portrayed as
rectangles and most fonts are distorted. 

imo, if you want graphics, use X.

mp

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  reply	other threads:[~2003-04-19 20:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.3339.1048022690.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-03-19 20:26 ` New Emacs with GTK! kgold
2003-03-19 20:47   ` Peter Lee
2003-03-19 20:53   ` Alan Shutko
2003-03-20  5:57   ` Miles Bader
     [not found]   ` <mailman.3402.1048139855.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-03-22 18:03     ` Michael Powe
2003-03-23  9:55       ` Niels Freimann
2003-03-23 16:08         ` Daniel R. Anderson
     [not found]         ` <mailman.3520.1048436082.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-03-24  2:14           ` Jason Earl
     [not found]       ` <mailman.3512.1048413524.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-03-23 11:18         ` Edward O'Connor
2003-03-23 12:00           ` Niels Freimann
2003-03-23 17:06             ` Alfred M. Szmidt
     [not found]           ` <mailman.3514.1048420980.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-03-23 14:17             ` A. L. Meyers
2003-03-23 16:09               ` Niels Freimann
     [not found]               ` <mailman.3519.1048435867.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-03-23 18:09                 ` Hubert Chan
2003-03-23 22:01                 ` Jason Rumney
2003-03-24  1:24                 ` Michael Powe
2003-03-24  7:26                   ` Miles Bader
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.3552.1048490983.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-03-25  0:11                     ` Michael Powe
2003-03-25  0:57                       ` Jesper Harder
2003-03-25 10:42                 ` Kai Großjohann
2003-03-25 15:48                 ` Sven Utcke
2003-03-25 16:16                 ` François Fleuret
2003-04-18  4:05               ` David Combs
2003-04-18  7:18                 ` Kai Großjohann
2003-04-19 20:00                   ` Michael Powe [this message]
2003-04-19 20:01                   ` Michael Powe
2003-04-18  4:13               ` David Combs
2003-04-18  9:55                 ` Niels Freimann
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.4867.1050659882.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-04-18 11:06                   ` Marco Parrone
2003-04-18 11:23                   ` Kai Großjohann
2003-04-18 13:25                     ` Niels Freimann
     [not found]                     ` <mailman.4874.1050672434.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-04-18 14:38                       ` Alan Shutko
2003-04-18 14:43                       ` Stefan Monnier
2003-04-18 15:31                       ` Kai Großjohann
2003-03-23 15:56             ` Marco Parrone
2003-03-25 16:26             ` Per Abrahamsen
2003-03-30  6:00               ` Michael Powe
2003-03-31 20:36                 ` John Russell
2003-03-31 20:52                   ` David Kastrup
2003-03-31 21:14                     ` John Russell
2003-03-31 21:20                       ` David Kastrup
2003-03-31 22:39                         ` John Russell
2003-03-31 21:01                   ` Kai Großjohann
2003-03-31 22:04                     ` David Kastrup
2003-04-01 12:27                       ` Sven Utcke
2003-04-01 12:52                         ` Kai Großjohann
2003-04-01 15:51                           ` Sven Utcke
2003-04-01 16:21                             ` Kai Großjohann
2003-04-01 13:49                         ` David Kastrup
2003-04-01 16:29                       ` Kai Großjohann
2003-04-02  1:59                         ` Miles Bader
2003-04-01 17:19                       ` Ole Laursen
2003-03-23 16:10         ` Michael Powe
2003-03-23 19:08           ` Alan Shutko
2003-03-24  0:46             ` Michael Powe
2003-03-24  2:17               ` Jason Earl
2003-03-24 23:52                 ` Michael Powe
2003-03-25 15:58                 ` Sven Utcke
2003-03-25 17:28                   ` Daniel R. Anderson
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.3619.1048613765.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-03-26  7:27                     ` Tim X
2003-03-26 10:49                       ` Ed Cavazos
2003-03-26 16:08                       ` Stefan Monnier
2003-04-01 12:23                       ` Sven Utcke
2003-03-26 13:34                     ` Garglemonster
2003-04-01 12:13                     ` Sven Utcke
2003-03-23 20:33           ` Daniel Jensen
2003-03-24  1:01             ` Michael Powe
2003-03-24 13:42               ` Bijan Soleymani
2003-03-25 12:25               ` David Kastrup
2003-03-30  5:52                 ` Michael Powe
2003-03-25 16:38           ` Per Abrahamsen
2003-03-25 16:07         ` Hallvard B Furuseth
2003-03-23  2:20 Nick Roberts
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-03-18 21:20 Hans Larsen
2003-03-04  8:56 New Emacs with GTK? Peter Wu
2003-03-04  9:50 ` David Kastrup
2003-03-04 13:27   ` Peter Wu
2003-03-12  7:16 ` Matthew Kennedy
2003-03-13  3:59   ` Peter Wu
2003-03-13  6:00     ` Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan
2003-03-13  6:23       ` Peter Wu
2003-03-13  8:37         ` Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan
2003-03-15 18:14           ` Peter Wu
2003-03-15 11:33             ` Marco Parrone
2003-03-13  7:58       ` Yongtao Yang
2003-03-13  8:30         ` Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan
2003-03-13 16:04           ` Stefan Monnier
2003-03-13  8:38   ` Peter Wu
2003-03-13 10:58     ` David Kastrup
2003-03-14  2:56       ` Peter Wu
2003-03-14 10:10         ` Kai Großjohann
2003-03-15 17:52           ` Peter Wu
2003-03-15 11:56             ` Marco Parrone
2003-03-15 17:22               ` Stefan Monnier
2003-03-16  2:10               ` Peter Wu
2003-03-15 14:03                 ` Marco Parrone
2003-03-19  3:54                   ` Peter Wu
2003-03-16  2:34               ` Peter Wu

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