From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Oliver Scholz Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: emacs for everything? Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 14:22:25 +0100 Message-ID: <87ekis4nla.fsf@ID-87814.user.uni-berlin.de> References: <10pg1ivp03kqa69@corp.supernews.com> <87u0rq14xu.fsf@163.com> <87zn1i6ibz.fld@barrow.com> <9mmdnc.46.ln@acm.acm> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1100697993 17338 80.91.229.6 (17 Nov 2004 13:26:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 13:26:33 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 17 14:26:29 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CUPpN-0003JW-00 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 14:26:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CUPyA-0006F6-J6 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 08:35:34 -0500 Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help X-Attribution: os X-Face: "HgH2sgK|bfH$; PiOJI6|qUCf.ve<51_Od(%ynHr?=>znn#~#oS>",F%B8&\vus),2AsPYb -n>PgddtGEn}s7kH?7kH{P_~vu?]OvVN^qD(L)>G^gDCl(U9n{:d>'DkilN!_K"eNzjrtI4Ya6; Td% IZGMbJ{lawG+'J>QXPZD&TwWU@^~A}f^zAb[Ru;CT(UA]c& User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:PUXqJy3QNSQE/PvBZ4vJrisLPVk= Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 84.57.78.104 Original-X-Trace: 17 Nov 2004 14:22:58 +0100, 84.57.78.104 Original-Lines: 22 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@arcor-ip.de Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsmi-us.news.garr.it!NewsITBone-GARR!news.mailgate.org!newsfeed.stueberl.de!uucp.gnuu.de!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsfeed.arcor-ip.de!news.arcor-ip.de!84.57.78.104 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:126687 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:22083 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:22083 FWIW, if the choice between X and Linux tty is just one of fonts and colours: It is quite possible and easy to make X look exactly like a linux console -- at least on a first glance and as long as you don't use pictures or programs like firefox or gv, of course. There is a font for X which looks /exactly/ like the standard font on the tty. That together with the right colour setup and together with a window manager like ion or ratpoison (both providing a keyboard centric UI) you can get an appearance which is distinguishable from the console only by a small bar above the emacs or xterm "window". I used to have that for a while and I liked it. You have the benefits of X when you need them. Nowadays, though, I am much too fond of proportional fonts. Then again, if one hardly ever has a need for said benefits, one might want to save the resources needed to run X even on modern hardware. Oliver -- 27 Brumaire an 213 de la Révolution Liberté, Egalité, Fraternité!