ISO a fast-loading Emacs

ISO a fast-loading Emacs

[kj]

I have an Emacs session running all the time; each of these sessions
runs for days or weeks on end, so I'm not concerned about the fact
that Emacs takes a very long time to get started.

But I also would like to have a fast-loading Emacs (or Emacs clone)
as the value of my EDITOR variable, so that whenever a program
requires me to edit text I don't have to wait a long time for the
auxiliary editor to come up.

Any suggestions?

Thanks!

kj

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Re: ISO a fast-loading Emacs

[Peter Dyballa]

Am 17.10.2005 um 11:01 schrieb kj:

> Any suggestions?
>

(server-start) in .emacs, emacsclient in the OS.

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Re: ISO a fast-loading Emacs

[Kaloian Doganov]

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On 17 окт 2005, socyl@987jk.com.invalid wrote:


> But I also would like to have a fast-loading Emacs (or Emacs clone)
> as the value of my EDITOR variable, so that whenever a program
> requires me to edit text I don't have to wait a long time for the
> auxiliary editor to come up.
>
> Any suggestions?

Emacs Client/Server is just for you.

(info "(emacs) Emacs Server")



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Re: ISO a fast-loading Emacs

[Björn Lindström]

kj <socyl@987jk.com.invalid> writes:

> I have an Emacs session running all the time; each of these sessions
> runs for days or weeks on end, so I'm not concerned about the fact
> that Emacs takes a very long time to get started.
>
> But I also would like to have a fast-loading Emacs (or Emacs clone)
> as the value of my EDITOR variable, so that whenever a program
> requires me to edit text I don't have to wait a long time for the
> auxiliary editor to come up.
>
> Any suggestions?

Others have already suggested emacsclient, which in most cases would
be the best solution. On machines with no Emacs, you can often still
use your local Emacs and Tramp.

In the other cases, I like to use nano, with a few options to make it
a bit more like Emacs, something like:

nano -c -k -w

Re: ISO a fast-loading Emacs

[Pascal Bourguignon]

kj <socyl@987jk.com.invalid> writes:

> I have an Emacs session running all the time; each of these sessions
> runs for days or weeks on end, so I'm not concerned about the fact
> that Emacs takes a very long time to get started.
>
> But I also would like to have a fast-loading Emacs (or Emacs clone)
> as the value of my EDITOR variable, so that whenever a program
> requires me to edit text I don't have to wait a long time for the
> auxiliary editor to come up.
>
> Any suggestions?

Either use emacsclient
    export EDITOR=emacsclient
    export VISUAL=emacsclient
    export CVSEDITOR=emacsclient
etc...


or use:
    emacs -q -nw

it takes less than 2 seconds to load on a Athlon 1200 MHz.

If you want to use it in EDITOR:
  ( echo '#!/bin/bash' ; echo 'exec emacs -q -nw' ) > ~/bin/quick-emacs
  export EDITOR=$HOME/bin/quick-emacs
...

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Re: ISO a fast-loading Emacs

[Lee Sau Dan]

>>>>> "Pascal" == Pascal Bourguignon <spam@mouse-potato.com> writes:

    Pascal> If you want to use it in EDITOR:
    Pascal> ( echo '#!/bin/bash' ; echo 'exec emacs -q -nw' ) > ~/bin/quick-emacs
    Pascal> export EDITOR=$HOME/bin/quick-emacs ...

I think you need to
        chmod +x ~/bin/quick-emacs
before it works.  :)


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Re: ISO a fast-loading Emacs

[Pascal Bourguignon]

bkhl@elektrubadur.se (Björn Lindström) writes:
> Others have already suggested emacsclient, which in most cases would
> be the best solution. On machines with no Emacs, you can often still
> use your local Emacs and Tramp.
>
> In the other cases, I like to use nano, with a few options to make it
> a bit more like Emacs, something like:
>
> nano -c -k -w

This is VERY DANGEROUS.

If you use occasionally a different editor, the risks to make a
painfull finger error is very high.  The only thing you can do on an
system with no emacs (eg when you're installing a system and the
live-CD doesn't has it), is to install emacs before doing anything else.

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Re: ISO a fast-loading Emacs

[Björn Lindström]

Pascal Bourguignon <spam@mouse-potato.com> writes:

> This is VERY DANGEROUS.
>
> If you use occasionally a different editor, the risks to make a
> painfull finger error is very high.

I have yet to experience how this could lead to anything VERY
DANGEROUS. If you often get catastrophic results from typos, a
revision control system might help...

Re: ISO a fast-loading Emacs

[William Xu]

Pascal Bourguignon <spam@mouse-potato.com> writes:

> bkhl@elektrubadur.se (Björn Lindström) writes:
>> Others have already suggested emacsclient, which in most cases would
>> be the best solution. On machines with no Emacs, you can often still
>> use your local Emacs and Tramp.
>>
>> In the other cases, I like to use nano, with a few options to make it
>> a bit more like Emacs, something like:
>>
>> nano -c -k -w
>
> This is VERY DANGEROUS.
>
> If you use occasionally a different editor, the risks to make a
> painfull finger error is very high.  The only thing you can do on an
> system with no emacs (eg when you're installing a system and the
> live-CD doesn't has it), is to install emacs before doing anything
> else.

One can't always install things as he'd like to...

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Re: ISO a fast-loading Emacs

[Max Vasin]

>>>>> "Pascal" == Pascal Bourguignon <spam@mouse-potato.com> writes:

Pascal> bkhl@elektrubadur.se (Björn Lindström) writes:
>> Others have already suggested emacsclient, which in most cases
>> would be the best solution. On machines with no Emacs, you can
>> often still use your local Emacs and Tramp.
>> 
>> In the other cases, I like to use nano, with a few options to
>> make it a bit more like Emacs, something like:
>> 
>> nano -c -k -w

Pascal> This is VERY DANGEROUS.

Pascal> If you use occasionally a different editor, the risks to
Pascal> make a painfull finger error is very high.  The only thing
Pascal> you can do on an system with no emacs (eg when you're
Pascal> installing a system and the live-CD doesn't has it), is to
Pascal> install emacs before doing anything else.
Another thing to do is to use some VERY DIFFERENT editor like vi ;-)

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Re: ISO a fast-loading Emacs

[Lennart Borgman]

>Pascal> This is VERY DANGEROUS.
>
>Pascal> If you use occasionally a different editor, the risks to
>Pascal> make a painfull finger error is very high.  The only thing
>Pascal> you can do on an system with no emacs (eg when you're
>Pascal> installing a system and the live-CD doesn't has it), is to
>Pascal> install emacs before doing anything else.
>Another thing to do is to use some VERY DIFFERENT editor like vi ;-)
>  
>
A way to prepare for the unknown here is to always use viper-mode ;-)

Re: ISO a fast-loading Emacs

[Kenneth Jacker]

  kj> But I also would like to have a fast-loading Emacs (or Emacs
  kj> clone) as the value of my EDITOR variable, ...

Another option is 'zile' (zile is lossy emacs):

        http://zile.sourceforge.net/

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Re: ISO a fast-loading Emacs

[Anselm Helbig]

kenneth already mentioned zile. 

i'm still using `jove' ("jonathan's own version of emacs") for quick
editing tasks, and in fact, i've been using jove for years before i
got started with the real thing. jove is more old fashioned than zile:
no color, a silly limit on the length of lines, etc. 

other choices are `qemacs' (which is said to be good for big files as
well, another task you wouldn't want to use gnu emacs for, has
utf8-support) and jed (customizable with `slang').

hum, sounds like i should put a 

	function jove { qemacs -nw $*; }

in my .bashrc. 8-)

and a last option, that has not yet been mentioned: you could work on
your `.emacs' to cut down startup time, throw out packages you once
played with but never use, and use autoloads for the rest. 

when i did that, i was able to reduce my startup time from 16s to 4s
for the first start (this is on an athlon xp 1600+). it goes further
down to 1.4s for following starts because of caching.

HTH, 

anselm

Re: ISO a fast-loading Emacs

[Tim X]

kj <socyl@987jk.com.invalid> writes:

> I have an Emacs session running all the time; each of these sessions
> runs for days or weeks on end, so I'm not concerned about the fact
> that Emacs takes a very long time to get started.
> 
> But I also would like to have a fast-loading Emacs (or Emacs clone)
> as the value of my EDITOR variable, so that whenever a program
> requires me to edit text I don't have to wait a long time for the
> auxiliary editor to come up.
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 

Yes, use gnuserv. Just put
(gnuserv-start) 

in your .emacs and set your shell EDITOR variable to 

EDITOR=gnuclient

Then when a program references EDITOR, such as crontab -e, an emacs
frame will be opened. Very fast - probably as fast as using vi and
certainly faster than starting a whole new emacs.

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Re: ISO a fast-loading Emacs

[LENNART BORGMAN]

From: kj <socyl@987jk.com.invalid>

> I have an Emacs session running all the time; each of these sessions
> runs for days or weeks on end, so I'm not concerned about the fact
> that Emacs takes a very long time to get started.
> 
> But I also would like to have a fast-loading Emacs (or Emacs clone)
> as the value of my EDITOR variable, so that whenever a program
> requires me to edit text I don't have to wait a long time for the
> auxiliary editor to come up.
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> kj
> 

Use gnuclient/server or emacsclient/server, see http://www.emacswiki.org/ for more information.