From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thierry Volpiatto Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Gnus and outgoing Mail Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 15:33:19 +0100 Message-ID: <87ejdw9bv4.fsf@thievol.homelinux.org> References: <87sl2c92no.fsf@kamaloka.dhatu> <87k5noqqiv.fsf@dell.linuxdev.us.dell.com> <87k5nonec0.fsf@kamaloka.dhatu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1197210657 21974 80.91.229.12 (9 Dec 2007 14:30:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 14:30:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Sven Bretfeld Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 09 15:31:07 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J1NBR-0002no-Kv for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Dec 2007 15:31:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J1NB9-0001Mw-DW for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Dec 2007 09:30:47 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J1NAu-0001ML-QZ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Dec 2007 09:30:32 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J1NAq-0001Lw-TU for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Dec 2007 09:30:32 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J1NAq-0001Lt-PF for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Dec 2007 09:30:28 -0500 Original-Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.172]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1J1NAq-0006io-4e for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Dec 2007 09:30:28 -0500 Original-Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id a2so1515154ugf for ; Sun, 09 Dec 2007 06:30:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=J+id+nNTbicAFCxsEfYK8EurTXEmvOTejmUJYJVFZAo=; b=aiKdM96LjNbmEOGEevu0/q2aZ0gEKM/GJeBJ1DZDmQ1TiYTa0c69Ivwc9mizuc60wkil2nRcpvDpfv7CC0PnGewA+M4dsJGm3esZiNkfyJ4BKmSsRhByw6qIqw6ZDSCw0liv98YpoeBXqCGrSACWsq3c8H4FJrVQ1nrPxuGeNv8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; b=ovUeANGD7HmGhGp2dxt+RZxBdLC5EnSc25+70g5Uwodve2JlSBpDluKyf98QLmKnEVuBAAPVicBburQLTqXX2maUmX4BAYqT+3e5LMfBrGr9CpfilMOOznX8Rm7nWj544RNOHpPeri09gbxCQpqyKVB1A8p6qrlBwH5utmZIw+Y= Original-Received: by 10.66.252.8 with SMTP id z8mr5329208ugh.1197210624569; Sun, 09 Dec 2007 06:30:24 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from thievol.homelinux.org ( [88.141.54.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e34sm4646369ugd.2007.12.09.06.30.22 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 09 Dec 2007 06:30:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87k5nonec0.fsf@kamaloka.dhatu> (Sven Bretfeld's message of "Sun, 09 Dec 2007 15:16:15 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:49955 Archived-At: Sven Bretfeld writes: > Hi Thierry > > Thierry Volpiatto writes: > >> Hi, if you write >> >> (setq smtpmail-auth-credentials >> '(("mail.gmx.net" 25 "***" "***"))) >> >> that mean you want to use starttls and you need to set >> mail and password instead of "***" "***" and "mail.gmx.net" >> must be the adress of an smtp server. > > Yes, gmx requires authentication, but, according to their > documentation, doesn't require (isn't able to understand) a secure > transmission of the login-data. I was thinking this is what is called > TLS. Gmx doesn't -- of course, grrr -- have a configuration > instruction for Gnus on its homepage. In the documentation for > Thunderbird, they say "Use Secure Transmission (TSL/SSL)" must _not_ > be enabled. Anyway, username and password have to be transmitted. > > That the "***"'s have to be username and password is clear. I only > masked them for the posting. mail.gmx.net is the SMTP-Server. > >> And are you sure your friend have some MTA installed >> (i use nbsmtp) > > We both have exim4 as the system's MTA. His is not configured. Mine is > configured for my usual smtp server which is different from gmx (I use > the one provided by my internet provider). But does Gnus really make > use of exim4? I was thinking it comes with its own MTA. How else can > it be explained that I could just edit my .gnus.el for using the > SMTP-server of gmx yesterday -- which was working -- without changing > my exim4 configuration? > > Thanks for your help > > Sven Gnus use sendmail to send mails: If you have exim on your system it will use exim, if you have postfix or anything else it will use that. -- A + Thierry Pub key: http://pgp.mit.edu