From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: member returns list Date: Sun, 06 Sep 2015 04:46:14 +0200 Message-ID: <87egicl0y1.fsf@debian.uxu> References: <55E5C99B.3020608@yandex.ru> <87lhcpu2wb.fsf_-_@debian.uxu> <874mjchisl.fsf@web.de> <87pp20jxy7.fsf@debian.uxu> <87twrcxyfk.fsf@mbork.pl> <87y4gnt2r5.fsf@debian.uxu> <87twran0dw.fsf@mbork.pl> <87d1xwbwh9.fsf@debian.uxu> <87oahgbfmp.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1441507117 8208 80.91.229.3 (6 Sep 2015 02:38:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2015 02:38:37 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 06 04:38:25 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZYPqa-0007zK-Na for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 06 Sep 2015 04:38:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44408 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZYPqa-0000fb-Pb for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2015 22:38:24 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47710) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZYPqR-0000eF-4N for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2015 22:38:16 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZYPqM-0004gM-3I for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2015 22:38:15 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:43230) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZYPqL-0004fx-TC for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2015 22:38:10 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZYPqJ-0007jI-J0 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Sep 2015 04:38:07 +0200 Original-Received: from nl106-137-244.student.uu.se ([130.243.137.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 06 Sep 2015 04:38:07 +0200 Original-Received: from embe8573 by nl106-137-244.student.uu.se with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 06 Sep 2015 04:38:07 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 34 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: nl106-137-244.student.uu.se Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:72H1tksTg3uwfctx4R7pHfQrAqw= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:107040 Archived-At: "Pascal J. Bourguignon" writes: > There were a lot of variants and propositions, > amongst all the lisp dialects. What was the reason (were the reasons) for this proliferation of different Lisps, the "Lisp wars"? > Then starting from 1984, some interested > corporations and institutes invested a lot of money > (in form of salaries to detached employees), to form > a standardization commitee and decide on this all > all similar kinds of discrepancies that made porting > lisp programs from one lisp to the other a PITA. > They worked hard, for ten years. Then money was > exhausted, so they finalized an ANSI Common Lisp > standard in 1994. And somewhere around then, the by far best language in the world started to be completely marginalized so that now, when I say it is the language I like the most without competition, either people (now I talk computer people) don't know it or are eyes wide mouth open. > or member* in emacs lisp since RMS doesn't want to > rejoin the common community of lispers What is the story about that? -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573