From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Need "xemacs/init.el" => "emacs/init.el" help Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 02:14:42 +0100 Message-ID: <87egdal8jh.fsf@debian.uxu> References: <20160121134503.405c96e8@zothique.localdomain> <87io2mli0x.fsf@debian.uxu> <20160121141414.5f7261dc@zothique.localdomain> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1453425322 12858 80.91.229.3 (22 Jan 2016 01:15:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 01:15:22 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 22 02:15:13 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aMQJk-0001mw-JN for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Jan 2016 02:15:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50264 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aMQJj-0000qI-7k for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Jan 2016 20:15:11 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48386) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aMQJY-0000px-Tw for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jan 2016 20:15:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aMQJV-0007Ot-M7 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jan 2016 20:15:00 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:51177) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aMQJV-0007Op-Fh for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jan 2016 20:14:57 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aMQJN-0001d7-W6 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jan 2016 02:14:50 +0100 Original-Received: from nl106-137-227.student.uu.se ([130.243.137.227]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 2016 02:14:49 +0100 Original-Received: from embe8573 by nl106-137-227.student.uu.se with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 2016 02:14:49 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 45 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: nl106-137-227.student.uu.se Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:XqOjfxhELWXfOgC7EdV3Vh1gxfc= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:108817 Archived-At: Dale Snell writes: >> What happens if you just put >> >> (setq-default fill-column 66) >> >> in the init file? > > That didn't work, which is why I used the hook. Perhaps some other configuration is interfering. Try this single line in a file ~/fill-column.el: (setq-default fill-column 15) (It is set to a ridiculous low just to see if it works.) Now invoke Emacs like this: $ emacs -Q -l ~/fill-column.el Now fill the *scratch* message with M-q. To me it gets very thin: 15 chars. > I know Emacs defines some function keys by default, > but I generally don't use them. I have two function > keys set: [f1] for help, and [f12] to > compile-command. Actually, I have [f12] to run the > command, S-[f12] to set the command, and C-[f12] to > abort the run. Since neither the help function nor > compile-command are things I use that much, I'm fine > with them bound to function keys. Right, the more often you use the shortcuts the closer and shorter you want them to be. Default Emacs isn't bad at this. Most of the really frequent things are close and short: `forward-word' is M-f, `backward-word' M-b, `forward-char' C-f, `backward-char' C-b, and so on. -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573