From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Is Elisp really that slow? Date: Fri, 17 May 2019 16:12:52 +0200 Message-ID: <87ef4xp3tn.fsf@telefonica.net> References: <878sv7sp3r.fsf@telefonica.net> <83r28z8zl9.fsf@gnu.org> <20190515210924.sijzy6mnpgzkt4gm@Ergus> <83ftpecwu1.fsf@gnu.org> <20190516161408.4dov3dwk5h4yoizn@Ergus> <838sv6cmwt.fsf@gnu.org> <20190516202327.5cgy2s4kppy3ahxa@Ergus> <871s0yqg2i.fsf@telefonica.net> <3210C8E9-7A74-47D6-81A0-470948E6D09C@gmail.com> <87r28xq0j1.fsf@telefonica.net> <20190517055202.ted62gt6hqcip7xt@Ergus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="202125"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 17 16:14:01 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hRdcX-000qRZ-Bx for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 17 May 2019 16:14:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49237 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hRdcW-00030m-Co for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 17 May 2019 10:14:00 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:40036) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hRdbZ-0002cc-OO for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 May 2019 10:13:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hRdbY-0006bu-Qc for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 May 2019 10:13:01 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=48128 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hRdbY-0006aP-K9 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 May 2019 10:13:00 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hRdbW-000pHm-Tl for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 May 2019 16:12:58 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Cancel-Lock: sha1:0PLr+UpnvMzoG8fy6K5v4Mm1kWY= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:120483 Archived-At: Ergus writes: >>Free Software is not a factor *today*, because most competitors are Free >>Software too. Even Visual Studio Code is MIT-licensed. >> > I will no go in the free vs open source here. But no, most of the > editors are open source, not free. Open Source is Free Software, at least for licenses like MIT that respects the user's esseential freedoms as defined by the GNU manifesto: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html As for the other points on your message, I can't go into lenghty discussions now but I agree on everything Eli said on his response.