From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Workshop to save M$ Windows users - help needed Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2021 07:10:43 +0200 Message-ID: <87ee8yybzg.fsf@zoho.eu> References: <837deua1sd.fsf@gnu.org> <834k9y9ysj.fsf@gnu.org> <87r1d151x1.fsf@logand.com> <87h7dwy9qh.fsf@logand.com> <87ee90y76p.fsf@logand.com> Reply-To: Emanuel Berg Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="39156"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:+lL7sD8F2jXGHxbzVUSntIs0WdA= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 06 07:11:48 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mXzDX-0009zP-MX for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 06 Oct 2021 07:11:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48460 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mXzDV-0006lb-QG for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 06 Oct 2021 01:11:45 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52936) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mXzCl-0006lL-Kg for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Oct 2021 01:11:00 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:58806) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mXzCj-00066B-34 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Oct 2021 01:10:58 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mXzCd-0008xX-Kl for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Oct 2021 07:10:51 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:133597 Archived-At: Eduardo Ochs wrote: > Here are some updates on the problem of using eev to install > wget.exe on Windows machines. Remember that I have good > reasons to suppose the most of the people who will > participate in my workshop have never used terminals and > don't even know well enough what is a directory. > > 1. PowerShell > ============= > Someone told me to take a look at PowerShell. Apparently it > has a built-in wget, and it is somewhat multi-platform-ish. > I installed it on my Debian box. Its main executable is > called pwsh. Pwsh doesn't run well on comint buffers - it > says that the terminal is not powerful enough. It works well > on vterm and ansi-term, and so I added support for ansi-term > to eev, and I defined a function eepitch-pwsh that uses > ansi-term. [...] Meta: ? What's this new style of posting you guys do? Donald Knuth all over? (Not that I know/saw it, just heard it. There was a long discussion recently, don't look that up, embarrassing, heh :)) But I don't mind, on the contrary as they say in the sweet science, "styles make fights" ... there is a guy in gmane.emacs.erc.general who also does it! He is ... either almost scary or very impressive ... Here is also a workshop BTW, inspired by Emacs. Or did I came to Emacs because of "the workshop" inside me, embryotic at that time? Because you can take the tiger out of the jungle but etc ... https://dataswamp.org/~incal/ums/ I've been telling the folks there it doesn't matter what _order_ you do good things. They are idempotent! No ... that's when nothing happens the second time you do it ... they are a transaction? related but not it. they are/can be done in parallel? but they can't, sometimes they require the same tools and we have a finite number of those as you see - especially in the machine shop ... but these things tend to multiply when you get it organized and in one place (but teen girls can't have the same effect with a box with chronologically sorted LOVE LETTERS <3 )... anyway, just do it if it makes sense, and don't worry about the order! BUT DESPITE telling this my most important message to the masses over and over - yes, I did take those photos AFTER I cleaned and organized it :D -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal