From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Po Lu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Someone start maintaining luddites.el Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2022 08:05:36 +0800 Message-ID: <87ee5sjp67.fsf@yahoo.com> References: <2BB5D34A-49FF-4EDC-81BA-1C9881E15276@gmail.com> <87r19wszuh.fsf@yahoo.com> <5C889C0D-5692-495B-8594-59324636B28A@gmail.com> <87mtkjubzv.fsf@yahoo.com> <87ee5vu5sa.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31909"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.60 (gnu/linux) Cc: help-gnu-emacs , Stefan Monnier To: Yuan Fu Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 01 01:06:47 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n3Rv5-00085M-7D for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Sat, 1 Jan 2022 00:05:45 +0000 Original-Received: by kubenode510.mail-prod1.omega.sg3.yahoo.com (VZM Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 7e498f2d4ecc0d3d4225d830672e5ad5; Sat, 01 Jan 2022 00:05:42 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (Yuan Fu's message of "Fri, 31 Dec 2021 14:00:39 -0800") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.19551 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.189.84; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic306-22.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -1 X-Spam_score: -0.2 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (-0.2 / 5.0 requ) DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:135091 Archived-At: Yuan Fu writes: > People now says "Let's set indent-tabs-mode to nil by default, people > can just revert it by adding a line in init.el=E2=80=9D, don=E2=80=99t th= ey? "luddites.el" will just give people another excuse. > Have to what? Sorry, I replied to that statement further below. > I=E2=80=99m pointing out that there is no definitive answer to when a thi= ng is > due to change, so =E2=80=9Cchange when its due=E2=80=9D is not a good sol= ution. Now > you are saying =E2=80=9Clet people discuss and come to agreement=E2=80=9D= , that=E2=80=99s not > the same as =E2=80=9Cchange when it's due=E2=80=9D. But I guess that=E2= =80=99s not relavent to > the current topic of =E2=80=9Cwhether luddites-mode hurts Emacs=E2=80=9D. The consensus of a discussion surrounding a change determines exactly whether or not "it is due", I think.