From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Marcin Borkowski Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Remove auctex from emacs Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2022 19:15:42 +0200 Message-ID: <87edw75lq9.fsf@mbork.pl> References: <878rmp6p1a.fsf@mbork.pl> <874jxc7pok.fsf@mbork.pl> <4JPfgfaJhGMNu0GVKlbgdOaYJmX8Cih8WZ6iYJkX-3JCK8QGot58RCyu8yWxajlfxWmXdRuWDy01mv6LkV9TY-Ms4RS_I6-ZvMjJta4_Ss8=@proton.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13604"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: mu4e 1.1.0; emacs 29.0.50 Cc: uzibalqa via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor To: uzibalqa Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 19 19:16:59 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oaKOB-0003Iq-Oz for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2022 19:16:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58280 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oaKOA-0008CS-9m for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2022 13:16:58 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41696) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oaKNh-0008CF-El for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2022 13:16:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.mojserwer.eu ([195.110.48.8]:35054) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oaKNZ-00080s-SN for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2022 13:16:29 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mojserwer.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7D14E6DB1; Mon, 19 Sep 2022 19:15:49 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mail.mojserwer.eu Original-Received: from mail.mojserwer.eu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.mojserwer.eu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6Faxq7_Q4_Gb; Mon, 19 Sep 2022 19:15:45 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (83.21.27.28.ipv4.supernova.orange.pl [83.21.27.28]) by mail.mojserwer.eu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6DD8AE605F; Mon, 19 Sep 2022 19:15:45 +0200 (CEST) In-reply-to: <4JPfgfaJhGMNu0GVKlbgdOaYJmX8Cih8WZ6iYJkX-3JCK8QGot58RCyu8yWxajlfxWmXdRuWDy01mv6LkV9TY-Ms4RS_I6-ZvMjJta4_Ss8=@proton.me> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=195.110.48.8; envelope-from=mbork@mbork.pl; helo=mail.mojserwer.eu X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SPF_HELO_TEMPERROR=0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:139580 Archived-At: On 2022-09-12, at 15:18, uzibalqa wrote: > ------- Original Message ------- > On Monday, September 12th, 2022 at 12:16 PM, Marcin Borkowski wrote: > > >> On 2022-09-12, at 12:01, uzibalqa uzibalqa@proton.me wrote: >> >> > ------- Original Message ------- >> > On Monday, September 12th, 2022 at 7:16 AM, Marcin Borkowski mbork@mbo= rk.pl wrote: >> > >> > > On 2022-09-11, at 21:19, uzibalqa uzibalqa@proton.me wrote: >> > > >> > > > How can remove auctex from emacs so that i can use tex-mode and la= tex-mode ? >> > > >> > > Out of curiosity: why? Is there anything that AUCTeX doesn't do that >> > > the built-in tex-mode/latex-mode does? I never used the built-in mod= e, >> > > but I read its documentation (many years ago), and it seems rather >> > > simplistic. OTOH, I used AUCTeX for many, many years (at least 15 ye= ars >> > > - now I rarely do anything in (La)TeX), and it has always served me = well >> > > (maybe apart from rather poor ConTeXt support, idk if that improved - >> > > but it still wasn't very bad). >> > > >> > > Best, >> > >> > Whatever it is, major-modes are not supposed to work that way. >> >> >> Not sure what do you mean. Worked for me for well over a decade. >> I assume it might bother you that it doesn't seem to have an entry in >> `auto-mode-alist' =E2=80=93 but that makes sense given that the same fil= e name pattern ("\\\\.tex$") corresponds to several modes (plain TeX/LaTeX/= ConTeXt/possible others, like AMSTeX). You could argue that there should be= one major AUCTeX mode and plain TeX/LaTeX/etc. minor modes =E2=80=93 but i= t is what it is, and I guess it's way too late to change that. Probably` ma= gic-mode-alist' could help =E2=80=93 but I have a hunch that it's >> more recent than AUCTeX' mechanism for major mode selection. (It was >> defined in Emacs 22.1 =E2=80=93 I'm 99% sure AUCTeX was around much earl= ier. >> I seem to vaguely recollect the first Emacs version I used to be 21 >> (=C2=B11), and I almost certainly attended a presentation about AUCTeX b= efore >> I even used Emacs.) > > There are too many tex and latex packages today, making the original desi= gn quite inadequate, > particularly with the emergence of cdlatex. Interesting. I've been using AUCTeX _a lot_ for many years until about 2018, when I left academia. Since then I've been using it less often, but I still do from time to time. I didn't notice any major inadequacies (there are - and always have been - minor annoyances). What are the problems you mean? Best, --=20 Marcin Borkowski http://mbork.pl