From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andreas Eder Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: package for Email Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2023 17:28:43 +0100 Message-ID: <87edrrhkn8.fsf@eder.anydns.info> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38949"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) Cc: "help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" To: Gottfried Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 18 17:29:48 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pIBJq-0009uk-Jw for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2023 17:29:46 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pIBJ0-00029r-1Q; Wed, 18 Jan 2023 11:28:54 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pIBIy-00029Z-C9 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2023 11:28:52 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.17.11]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pIBIw-0006d4-N7 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2023 11:28:52 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=s29768273; t=1674059326; bh=yqmq6F1SahCtL6+LSXp5xVN0F6OPBNcwsNPzfQ1ZtWQ=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=R8yP354viJpVTFUpKW9d3mu07Cqg1F3sAQFC3Lo6eb438hB7BAKq9Ed+NI+fKA/bo Z95G8K/DMLzgJEu+T933Jl0tO6nOUzx2glzkLSaS/FkAevnyp2j+5KS+WqGu16LnSf UfRSPo/x+14YnCoqeoRgLnNuWBrqib4EdEIYWUfGGCfaScpJSl8Fh5+oM36ZrT824n O09MIX+NwzvR+lljlUC09GpHmLLKYIQ1PrIBglApyJCh4NnqM1v8qcOCJPL40szCRq RmVOsEdLNuBo2lmFuo6F4sqhi4eaDF+Zubsz1ncETiVOKoMTq6z8jGdVDn7l34Fs9b M4sgWWGAUGUiQ== X-UI-Sender-Class: 814a7b36-bfc1-4dae-8640-3722d8ec6cd6 Original-Received: from localhost ([87.153.138.4]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb105 [213.165.67.124]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1N9LEU-1ofu4w08mq-015bx9; Wed, 18 Jan 2023 17:28:46 +0100 In-Reply-To: (gottfried@posteo.de's message of "Wed, 18 Jan 2023 13:56:20 +0000") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:yGzsGdd6xJWbJ61Nvm3WdkzqM16FS9wtL5fU5374s58W4COgFtM 8pmWwNq11AKpFFPVqlkiojTs34gD2h5n1rukcANJdbrftfEVBNOqemXcffOP8LDfAPP/y7R KstJ2GND/1dFFuJEY+j2WID3XhdyUWUvI8yHBHDF/LCcJ3VeZ5LkuEOxptAzzuu70jv9xp4 zaP1pTW2BzBO76mKMYcGw== UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:hkJAtPEPcak=;a2MFsEsb35AvGDJWyh/0AOdpGcR gnku6bc4k2Mb6InXzGJCooRYVnLn/OeYxXH/Ctt6izij/dq9McRdr7w3xWATieRsKnGT7EFBr F3mFxrvfPlDDmxTQkli85MYnOX4JLcRKYpqJYuo5oHOGwmPNYHWlm53lqqIQcJ/jwIepfxfwM nQsH3DOzEAOwUuhXDJupN6kBGxZGPMeFGzeUvFe0Frg0Gp+Kuq3vNbuOAsjq7dxnQKx+KYV1V 2e4aP9Ew7KYpTpEzy4oqYoKS8WFrRCw88yxgDe87ZVKbhWiKXlRnAcBpk8v80DyX0XnjkSfJ8 jhSFRBcA0m0neKFMKSaUW8BQh1zeksePCvDDHt3uUjQtAzkY5OR9wVI7RFoCRObLPCuW1xOd8 rkSD9pd7kep1W12RPGc/XRb8BUKV3LGaaPoGtBTN711kTiBwR+Oytjgeo+U3WdKtgzmYBTK1h sntSvUKc3cSR9M986GO534AF93IILihjHCpGu2sUUa3BUKUW9weB1Qa70wO5An9pADRxY0zUj nj0Ord2VTTc2FZe/l3UiPXJrdEyywSF2nAh6MNxsihxh7Bk1QpvLk+c7HQll0stZStrdFORIu KTlED//tIRMju9hKCLvyjXu60A/bze1BY+CmJLbQLEv4e5xjRnUKIB/pqchTcHl+MU3RZazCq sneoUUOnO+yFLgyknbR2N57NzDu1I/RCuvWyJ2X4fpUmSabZchECU2zgOjkOFAaHYEueWo+Dg U2HFdIWffMrBXPiA5jcbX5W+Sgwpfnq2WZKd058RRlZGiEAuvK850umVREaJDp7lGQlOXIFF Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.17.11; envelope-from=a_eder_muc@web.de; helo=mout.web.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:142365 Archived-At: On Mi 18 Jan 2023 at 13:56, Gottfried wrote: > Hi everybody, > > I am using thunderbird for emails. > My question: > > 1. Which Email package do you use? mu4e > 2. Does it make sense for me as an emacs-newbie to change from using > thunderbird to an emacs email package? certainly > 3. There are > Rmail, GNU, Wanderlust, Mu4e etc... It is gnus not GNU. And there is also notmuch and VM and probably some others. > 4. I prefer to habe folders because I like to have an overview. > Mu4e doesn't have folders. You can have folders with mu4e, I do! > 5. I want IMAP. > Do all of them provide IMAP? (does Rmail now provide IMAP)? Look at mbsync or offline-imap. > 6. Wanderlust seems to be more difficult to set up, and I still have > trouble because I am an Emacs-newbie. I have no experience with wanderlust. > 7. Which one is easier to use? That depends on who you ask. > 8. Should I start with Rmail? and later switch to GNU? I'd advise zou to start with mu4e. Have a look at the emacs wiki and other instructions. > 9. Or is it useful to start with GNU because it has more options and I > have to learn it anyhow? and I can use it with org-mode? gnus has a totally different way of handling mail. Use it only if you are also using for reading usenet news. > 10. Do all of them have the same or similar keybindings or do I have to > learn for each one separate keybindings? They have different keybindings by default, but you can change the bindings. > 11. What are the benefits compared to thunderbird? You are inside emacs! 'Andreas