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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID b9678d51afd23d6eada53f144c7a3c67; Sat, 15 Apr 2023 11:16:13 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <83wn2dcwj7.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 15 Apr 2023 12:41:32 +0300") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21365 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.190.146; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic315-20.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:143280 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2023 10:21:08 +0200 >> Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org >> From: >> >> > Seriously: you should talk to your CISO, if you have one. You _think_ >> > you control everything on your "civilised" OS, but that's an illusion. >> > Unless you build your machines yourself, from the ground up, and also >> > code all the software that runs on it. >> >> You just moved the goalposts. We had it about paging files (which in >> my case would be a partition, but I disgress). I control that. I don't >> control the IME, alas. > > No, the original issue was about whether some stuff Emacs has in > memory could end up on your local disk somewhere. Pagefiles are just > one such mechanism, but it isn't the only one. I think you're all missing the most obvious snafu (which has actually gotten me in trouble with our security folks): auto-save files.