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Does "ls -l" show the >> same for files from both groups? Jean> I was using RCS before, then I stopped. But rcs was not installed= . However, those files that were registered in RCS were read only. Jean> I have renamed RCS directory and now those files do not appear re= ad only. Jean> But I wonder how is that when rcs command was not installed. vc-rcs.el installs a find-file hook that makes RCS buffers readonly. I=CA=BCm guessing that it checks just for the presence of RCS/ files (I says 'guessing' because vc is a twisty maze of passages). Robert --=20