From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Shawn Betts Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Making Emacs more newbie friendly Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 18:16:29 GMT Message-ID: <87d5tvijrk.fsf@verizon.net> References: <874qf8d3cy.fsf@thalassa.informatimago.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1111256333 31203 80.91.229.2 (19 Mar 2005 18:18:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 18:18:53 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 19 19:18:53 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DCiX1-0000q9-IJ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:18:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DCinl-0001UE-By for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:35:57 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!cyclone1.gnilink.net!spamkiller2.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!trndny07.POSTED!25c3448d!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 11 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 151.201.123.127 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@verizon.net Original-X-Trace: trndny07 1111256189 151.201.123.127 (Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:16:29 EST) Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:16:29 EST Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:129425 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:24980 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:24980 PT writes: > By arrow keys I also mean text selection with shift+arrow keys, > etc. It is pretty standard in modern systems, so it should be turned > on by default. Are you saying Emacs is not a modern system? Should we add a Start button to Emacs too? It'd help newbs feel warm and fuzzy and its pretty standard on "modern systems." -Shawn