From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tyler Smith Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: gnus, thunderbird and imap Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 09:17:48 -0500 Message-ID: <87d3onuwoj.fsf@guruji.demimonde> References: <87zkrsl93s.fsf@news.individual.de> <4D189BB1.1030904@mousecar.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1293459551 22550 80.91.229.12 (27 Dec 2010 14:19:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 14:19:11 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 27 15:19:07 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PXDuV-0002LG-NP for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 27 Dec 2010 15:18:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50214 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PXDuT-0005IX-LO for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 27 Dec 2010 09:18:49 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=37204 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PXDtu-0005HE-Sc for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Dec 2010 09:18:15 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PXDtt-0005YM-Hj for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Dec 2010 09:18:14 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:33658) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PXDtt-0005Y4-3v for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Dec 2010 09:18:13 -0500 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PXDtr-0001vn-Su for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Dec 2010 15:18:11 +0100 Original-Received: from 76.177.51.182 ([76.177.51.182]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 27 Dec 2010 15:18:11 +0100 Original-Received: from tyler.smith by 76.177.51.182 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 27 Dec 2010 15:18:11 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 58 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 76.177.51.182 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:FomOFGeYfskp8vLbPWyQSj1Fqx4= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:77912 Archived-At: ken writes: > On 12/27/2010 03:12 AM Richard Riley wrote: >> Rud1ger Sch1erz writes: >> >>> Tyler Smith writes: >>> >>>> Indicate that I need to set up a local IMAP server to get gnus working. >>> Why that? I use gnus just with my IMAP account at gmx, concurrently with >>> thunderbird, which I sometimes use from a different machine where no >>> gnus is installed. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Rudiger >>> >> >> Its a lot faster and you get nnir indexed searching as well as a >> local copy of all your mail and the overhead is very low. > > For years I've been using IMAPS without a local server and the speed is > fine... anything "faster" than my remote connection-- such as a local > server-- wouldn't be noticeable. I do have it running off the remote server now. However, it's noticeably slower than Thunderbird - often several seconds delay while moving messages between folders or rescanning new mail. On Thunderbird, with a local message repository, there is also a delay, but it's shorter and doesn't lock the entire application up. So I may still go the extra effort to set up a local server. > Moreover, using the remote server (my ISP's) allows me to access my > email from anywhere in the world where I can get an internet > connection. Yes, I could do that with a local IMAPS server... and of > course secured and firewalled it... and put those machines on a UPS > and performed regular backups. But why go through all that when the > ISP (or other organization) does it for free? I assume I could set up a local server that would mirror, rather than download, the remote server? Thunderbird is set up to download all my messages off of the remote server, but it doesn't delete anything. So I get the advantage of local speed, plus I can access the server from other machines anywhere else. I'd like to have that with gnus, eventually. > > The OP just wants to use emacs to get mail from a remote IMAP(S) server. > Why turn it into a project? It should take ten minutes, tops, to set > that up... *should* being the operative word, of course. I'm still ironing out issues after several hours of reading manuals, googling and prowling mailing lists. Granted, the initial connection to the IMAP server probably was accomplished in less than a single hour. Thanks to all for your comments! Tyler