From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Feeling lost without tabs Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 20:34:48 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <87d2czubef.fsf@debian.uxu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1405881330 5926 80.91.229.3 (20 Jul 2014 18:35:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 18:35:30 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 20 20:35:23 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1X8vxA-0004B7-5F for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 20:35:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58664 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X8vx9-0001JL-NI for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 14:35:19 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.kjsl.com!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!news.stack.nl!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 28 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: SIvZRMPqRkkTHAHL6NkRuw.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:AqrkLVSzUKoP9gEU6gJyxRb0dFg= Mail-Copies-To: never Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:206560 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:98832 Archived-At: Dan Espen writes: > The multiple keys part is easy: > > (define-key global-map [(f9)] 'electric-buffer-list) Well, it is not that easy. Look on the keyboard where `C-x C-b' is and where F9 is. While I agree `C-x C-b' isn't good (too long), it is better than F9 because the function keys - as well as the arrow keys, the numeric keypad, etc. - require you to move your hand(s) away from typing position(s). They are difficult to hit so you need to look down to hit them. Then you need to reset with the same problem. I never use them. A short keystroke is not always better that a long. > Why hit 2 keys for something you do so often? > > For, me tabs would be a huge annoyance. I've got the > WM set to no title bar for emacs. I've got emacs > customized for no toolbar and no menubar. So, all > I've got in Emacs windows is text. Yes, I do the same. The OP isn't all Emacs just yet... you just wait :) -- underground experts united