From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk (Phillip Lord) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: A package in a league of its own: Helm Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 14:27:54 +0100 Message-ID: <87d2beb19h.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> References: <787f8d86-dede-4627-b4e5-3658a1833455@googlegroups.com> <73520ac0-9fc0-42ce-8a15-cc400b6f8308@googlegroups.com> <672a0d66-bc48-4b7a-9279-c7d631a03f79@googlegroups.com> <871trvjpnx.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <0e52cfc6-d6ed-4b45-bbd3-2cdd13fcc91b@googlegroups.com> <53756104-40ab-4c80-8112-13f305208be5@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1409664510 22140 80.91.229.3 (2 Sep 2014 13:28:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 13:28:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: "Tu\, Do" Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 02 15:28:25 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XOo8H-0007Ja-3j for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 15:28:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38149 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XOo8G-0006SG-NE for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 09:28:24 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59891) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XOo7v-0006Oc-OC for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 09:28:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XOo7p-0004jp-8e for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 09:28:03 -0400 Original-Received: from cheviot22.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.234.22]:49700) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XOo7p-0004jH-3g for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 09:27:57 -0400 Original-Received: from smtpauth-vm.ncl.ac.uk ([10.8.233.129] helo=smtpauth.ncl.ac.uk) by cheviot22.ncl.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1XOo7n-0005Op-Dj; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 14:27:55 +0100 Original-Received: from jangai.ncl.ac.uk ([10.66.67.223] helo=localhost) by smtpauth.ncl.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1XOo7n-0007Cb-20; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 14:27:55 +0100 In-Reply-To: <53756104-40ab-4c80-8112-13f305208be5@googlegroups.com> (Do Tu's message of "Tue, 2 Sep 2014 01:21:38 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 128.240.234.22 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:99593 Archived-At: "Tu, Do" writes: >> Ido comes with Emacs, which is a big plus. Flx can be installed from >> >> marmalade repo. > > Stock Ido is a bit better than stock find-file but not that much. At least > with stock find-file, you can open a directory or a file. With Ido, you have > to switch. You also have to improve Ido with packages. No, it's really a lot better. You can open a dir or file with ido (agreed, opening a dir is not an obvious keypress). You can tab down large directories structures very quickly. ido remebers where you have been so offers good completions often. You can go up whole directories, short-cut to "~" and "/". And given a file name you can auto-search. The only problem with ido is that I miss it when I am not using Emacs (and for somethings when I am using Emacs). I am interested in helm in case it is better than ido, but ido is very good. Phil