From: Marcin Borkowski <mbork@wmi.amu.edu.pl>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: gnuplot
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 15:54:28 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87d25f2na3.fsf@wmi.amu.edu.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87egpv2p4k.fsf@wmi.amu.edu.pl>
On 2015-02-12, at 15:14, Marcin Borkowski <mbork@wmi.amu.edu.pl> wrote:
> On 2015-02-11, at 17:11, Javier Fernandez <jafernan@faeroes.freeshell.org> wrote:
>
>> [...] I think at some point they will release it under a more
>> liberal license. Otherwise gnuplot will stagnate. There are GPL
>
> Just my 2 cents: GPL is not necessarily what should be called
> a "liberal" license -- personally I find it rather restrictive, in
> a sense.
BTW: I do not like to sound trollish, but there was recently a heated
discussion with exceptionally rude posts on Org-mode mailing list about
so-called non-"free" (free-as-in-Free-Software-Foundation, to be
precise) software.
It was stated there that GNU mailing lists do not allow promotion of
non-"free" software. So - if gnuplot is apparently not kosher - what is
the official stance on this very thread? I'm asking because it was
stated in that discussion that
> [Redacted] is non-free software, and people should not install it, or
> suggest installing it, or even tell people it exists.
and in another post
> Please stop using the GNU mailing lists to promote proprietary
> software.
(To be fair, not all participants seemed to agree with the above -
rather extreme - quotes, and there was also a polite explanation of why
informing about [redacted] was not necessarily a good idea on Org-mode
mailing list.)
I'd really like to understand what is good and what is evil according to
the FSF, and - also from sheer curiosity - why is the current thread
even allowed here (not to mention that there's even a discussion about
a *possibility* of including gnuplot-mode in Emacs itself, which -
according to what was said in the mentioned thread - sounds
sacrilegious).
This thread is another hint for me that there's something fishy going on
with all this "free-software" talk. I'm afraid that - as is often the
case - when some organization (three-letter or not) says that it aims to
"promote [somebody's] freedom and to defend the rights of all
[somebodies]", it's really some politics and not anybody's freedom it's
all about. (If there is another explanation for this seemingly unfair
treatment of various software projects, please do enlighten me!) Even
though I do not personally agree with RMS or FSF, I have to say that
*if* this is indeed the case, I would be rather saddened and seriously
disappointed - until recently, I really believed in good intentions
(however mistaken their morality) behind the FSF.
Regards,
--
Marcin Borkowski
http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski
Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science
Adam Mickiewicz University
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2015-02-11 3:48 ` gnuplot (was: Re: zsh outside of Emacs) Emanuel Berg
2015-02-11 16:11 ` gnuplot Javier Fernandez
2015-02-11 17:02 ` gnuplot Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.19720.1423674192.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-02-11 19:40 ` gnuplot Javier Fernandez
2015-02-11 20:11 ` gnuplot Javier Fernandez
2015-02-12 3:47 ` gnuplot Emanuel Berg
2015-02-12 13:21 ` gnuplot Stefan Monnier
[not found] ` <mailman.19754.1423747283.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-02-12 23:31 ` gnuplot Emanuel Berg
2015-02-12 14:14 ` gnuplot Marcin Borkowski
2015-02-12 14:43 ` gnuplot Stefan Monnier
2015-02-12 14:54 ` Marcin Borkowski [this message]
2015-02-12 15:07 ` gnuplot Marcin Borkowski
2015-02-12 15:11 ` gnuplot Stefan Monnier
[not found] ` <mailman.19761.1423753684.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-02-12 23:22 ` gnuplot Emanuel Berg
2015-02-13 18:34 ` gnuplot Thien-Thi Nguyen
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2015-02-12 23:24 ` gnuplot Emanuel Berg
[not found] ` <mailman.19760.1423752889.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-02-12 23:13 ` gnuplot Emanuel Berg
2015-02-12 2:36 ` gnuplot (was: Re: zsh outside of Emacs) Robert Thorpe
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