From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Heerdegen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: `looking-back' strange warning Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2015 08:36:16 +0200 Message-ID: <87d1wxhj4v.fsf@web.de> References: <560B9C7F.2060301@easy-emacs.de> <560CD7CE.4010404@yandex.ru> <6524c81a-949c-40d1-b990-d214d6ee5b60@default> <560D73DF.8040403@yandex.ru> <560D7A68.8040404@easy-emacs.de> <560D8289.6010409@yandex.ru> <560D8F96.5040200@easy-emacs.de> <4e720684-b2cf-4e74-be53-a20208f94328@default> <560E2155.7060401@easy-emacs.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1443767826 11125 80.91.229.3 (2 Oct 2015 06:37:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 06:37:06 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 02 08:36:57 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Zhtxf-0000FI-A3 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 08:36:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57752 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zhtxe-0003AW-9X for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 02:36:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46009) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZhtxT-00039x-8k for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 02:36:44 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZhtxO-0000Xu-2g for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 02:36:43 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:34317) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZhtxN-0000X8-R8 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 02:36:37 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZhtxJ-0008KI-40 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 08:36:33 +0200 Original-Received: from ip-90-186-2-171.web.vodafone.de ([90.186.2.171]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 08:36:33 +0200 Original-Received: from michael_heerdegen by ip-90-186-2-171.web.vodafone.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 08:36:33 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 19 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip-90-186-2-171.web.vodafone.de User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:t2cvrL3ZlFkUcj6LQov3qT+JEnE= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:107458 Archived-At: Andreas Röhler writes: > Stefan, that's bad gouvernants style. What about "respect users > freedom" and blah? I think the warning is necessary (to let people know that a call will be wrong in a future release), as well is the advertised calling convention per se (the user should be forced to think about the limit). The only thing that is not optimal is the kind of how the information is presented to the user: the wording is confusing. It would better if it would say something about a changed/obsoleted signature or so. Apart from that, I don't see a problem. The warning goes away if you use the LIMIT arg everywhere, and that is easy to do and doesn't harm even if you use older Emacs versions as well, on the contrary, I think it is an improvement for most users doing that. Michael.