From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: john@ankarstrom.se (John =?utf-8?Q?Ankarstr=C3=B6m?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: What makes elisp fun ? Date: Fri, 26 May 2017 23:17:14 +0200 Message-ID: <87d1avjp2d.fsf@ankarstrom.se> References: <96BC1171-45DA-4415-B2E8-3DD4B51AB78A@gmail.com> <8760gng1o2.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1495834493 23578 195.159.176.226 (26 May 2017 21:34:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 May 2017 21:34:53 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 26 23:34:50 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dEMsj-00061j-Ew for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 26 May 2017 23:34:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38608 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dEMso-00049R-Vg for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 26 May 2017 17:34:55 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40763) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dEMbk-0000wq-Lg for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 26 May 2017 17:17:17 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dEMbf-0008Q8-Ou for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 26 May 2017 17:17:16 -0400 Original-Received: from pusjkin.ankarstrom.se ([172.104.152.215]:41084) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dEMbf-0008Pl-GK for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 26 May 2017 17:17:11 -0400 Original-Received: from DESKTOP-2MQA95O (c83-253-24-36.bredband.comhem.se [83.253.24.36]) by pusjkin.ankarstrom.se (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E378F3ED51 for ; Fri, 26 May 2017 23:17:09 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=ankarstrom.se; s=default; t=1495833430; bh=Yxp/qvIy7kMAivoGn3BSzgrwnp7cZTs9Gn6uICFzyU0=; h=From:To:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=iAsLu1OS69PasGtK3C2a/WkzGDhdGWqCdDfhc7SvfzxUbT3ztD4bxZ49XKoTb5A7i IVkd1TuAdn4EJCeET4jZUhMsOG5vUlGN9d12O8RcD7rRwGyT9F3DaTMAuNvFBzGrUN 5h4h6CRjlri5fL6uH8t0Ky898lbofGphk8qiiFSM= In-Reply-To: (Emanuel Berg's message of "Fri, 26 May 2017 22:53:19 +0200") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 172.104.152.215 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:113188 Archived-At: Emanuel Berg writes: > Eric Abrahamsen wrote: > >> This is a trick question: the reason elisp is fun is >> because it's the Emacs extension language. > > Are you sure? I can't even imagine having to do C or an OO > language for what I do in Elisp. How it would ever work is > another issue. But I can even less imagine it be as much > fun as Lisp. Lisp is just a more relaxed language and for > programming which is so intense and focused it is an > awesome quality. I completely agree with this sentiment. Emacs Lisp is a joy to work with not only because it's the interactive extension language of Emacs, but because it's a nice language. If Emacs used Python as an extension language, I don't think we would feel the same for Python as we do for Elisp. The fact that Elisp is part of Emacs helped me discover, not as a means to an end, but as a language in its own right.