From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Is Elisp really that slow? Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 15:40:02 +0200 Message-ID: <87d0kir00d.fsf@telefonica.net> References: <20190514235412.kncazq45szlum2gr@Ergus> <83v9yb92c7.fsf@gnu.org> <878sv7sp3r.fsf@telefonica.net> <83r28z8zl9.fsf@gnu.org> <83o9438xgd.fsf@gnu.org> <87r28zqy2r.fsf@telefonica.net> <83woiqczm7.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="18813"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 16 15:40:41 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hRGcj-0004nA-8v for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 16 May 2019 15:40:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58160 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hRGch-0001nf-CB for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 16 May 2019 09:40:39 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:45298) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hRGcU-0001m3-Kd for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 16 May 2019 09:40:29 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hRGcQ-0005Zu-Cn for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 16 May 2019 09:40:26 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=43960 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hRGcQ-0004ab-5j for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 16 May 2019 09:40:22 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hRGcE-0004Iy-2N for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 16 May 2019 15:40:10 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Cancel-Lock: sha1:+oMxRqztupxIGjwQhrRcJo15aso= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:120440 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Óscar Fuentes >> Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 22:09:32 +0200 >> >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> >> >> > "Outside Savannah" is not relevant when we talk about Emacs. >> >> If people are implementing the features but can't be integrated in stock >> Emacs, the Savannah boundary becomes relevant. > > Not for this thread, which deals specifically with what's available in > Emacs OOB. I'm sure the authors of those packages would be happy to see them integrated on Emacs but... >> >> Assuming that the authors have no problem assigning their copyrights >> >> to FSF, what prevents the outside work from being integrated into >> >> Emacs in Savannah to improve Emacs's C++ IDE features? >> > >> > Under those assumptions, and if that work doesn't use any non-free >> > software, nothing. >> >> Unfortunately, this is not true. > > Yes, it is. ... they work on top of Clang which, as you very well know, exclude them from being incorporated in Emacs.