From: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
To: <tomas@tuxteam.de>
Cc: help-gnu-emacs <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>,
Yuri Khan <yuri.v.khan@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Appending lists
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 21:24:19 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87czslv6yk.fsf@posteo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210616185451.GB18839@tuxteam.de> (tomas@tuxteam.de's message of "Wed, 16 Jun 2021 20:54:51 +0200")
<tomas@tuxteam.de> writes:
> On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 08:36:00PM +0300, Jean Louis wrote:
>> * Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net> [2021-06-16 16:07]:
>> > > (setq list '(A B C)) ⇒ (A B C)
>> > > (nconc list '(1 2 3)) ⇒ (A B C 1 2 3)
>> > > list ⇒ (A B C 1 2 3)
>> >
>> > Change that to
>> >
>> (let* ((list-1 '(a b c))
>> (list-2 (nconc list-1 '(1 2 3))))
> ^^^^ not recommended: '(a b c) is a "constant object"
> Some version of elisp might even refuse to do that!
True, I wanted to do (list 'a 'b 'c) but I didn't want to change the
example that much.
Also, what versions of elisp wouldn't allow that?
>> (eq list-1 list-2)) ;; => t
>>
>> eq - Return t if the two args are the same Lisp object.
>>
>> And we talked how variable's value does not change... values or Lisp
>> objects?
>>
>> (setq list-1 '(a b c))
>> list-1 ⇒ (a b c)
>> (setq list-2 (nconc list-1 '(1 2 3))) ⇒ (a b c 1 2 3)
>> list-2 ⇒ (a b c 1 2 3)
>> (eq list-1 list-2) ⇒ t
>> list-1 ⇒ (a b c 1 2 3)
>>
>> How I see that is that it is same lisp object, but I can visually see
>> that the value changed.
>>
>> Maybe Thomas wanted to say that lisp object does not change?
>
> On the contrary. Mutable objects can change. Cons cells are
> mutable objects, and thus lists, which are made of those.
>
> Cheers
> - t
>
--
Philip K.
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2021-06-14 16:36 Appending lists Pierpaolo Bernardi
2021-06-14 16:40 ` henri-biard
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2021-06-16 7:28 ` tomas
2021-06-16 9:13 ` Jean Louis
2021-06-16 9:32 ` tomas
2021-06-16 10:55 ` Jean Louis
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2021-06-16 18:00 ` Using Emacs for business Jean Louis
2021-06-16 22:59 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-16 23:39 ` Jean Louis
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2021-06-17 7:09 ` Jean Louis
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2021-07-06 20:23 ` Jean Louis
2021-07-06 20:41 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-07 0:18 ` Jean Louis
2021-06-16 9:19 ` Appending lists Jean Louis
2021-06-16 9:35 ` tomas
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2021-06-16 11:16 ` Yuri Khan
2021-06-16 11:30 ` Jean Louis
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2021-06-16 13:01 ` Philip Kaludercic
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2021-06-16 17:36 ` Jean Louis
2021-06-16 18:54 ` tomas
2021-06-16 21:24 ` Philip Kaludercic [this message]
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