From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tim X Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: New Emacs with GTK! Date: 26 Mar 2003 18:27:37 +1100 Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <87brzy6106.fsf@tiger.rapttech.com.au> References: <87el4z9t43.fsf@cecilia.trollope.org> <87y935se36.fsf@smtp.wegointer.net> Reply-To: timx@spamto.devnul.com NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1048664577 5223 80.91.224.249 (26 Mar 2003 07:42:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 07:42:57 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 26 08:42:56 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18y5Yl-0001M7-00 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 08:42:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18y5Wn-0004IR-09 for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 02:40:53 -0500 Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 40 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp1785.nsw.padsl.internode.on.net Original-X-Trace: duster.adelaide.on.net 1048662838 ppp1785.nsw.padsl.internode.on.net (26 Mar 2003 17:43:58 +1050) Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!cyclone.bc.net!news-out.spamkiller.net!propagator2-maxim!news-in.spamkiller.net!snewsf0.syd.ops.aspac.uu.net!news1.optus.net.au!optus!news.mel.connect.com.au!news.ade.connect.com.au!duster.adelaide.on.net!not-for-mail Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:111403 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:7903 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:7903 >>>>> "Daniel" == Daniel R Anderson writes: Daniel> >> Well, SUN sells _slow_ hardware, so I still don't see how gnome >> would Daniel> Daniel> Out of curiousity if Sun's hardware is so slow why do so many Daniel> people use it and why are they the huge company that they Daniel> are? I think, when talking about SUN's hardware, you need to distinguish between server and workstation application. As a server, Sun has some very nice features which make it very useful. In particular, Sun serves are able to handle large memory models (e.g. +4Gb) a lot better than Linux which has problems with large memory models. Sun servers with multiple processors have the ability to continue working even when one processor fails. At one place where I worked, the air-conditioning in the server room broke down one weekend. The temp got high and all the intel (Linux and Windows) servers died. The sun servers continued to wrk even though some of them had lost processors due to the heat. I also think Sun has a better bus architecture for high end hardware and can obtain a higher through put. I actually suspect Sun hardware is quite good and fast even on workstations (though still very expensive) and its the OS which makes it appear slow. Some years ago I was given permission to load Linux onto a sparc station. We thought it was a real dog of a box because it seemed about equal to a 486. It had been running solaris. We were amazed at the performance increase once we put linux on it. The system was a lot more stable and in fact, last time I visited this old employer about 6 months ago, that sun box was still purring along with Linux and had been up for over 12 months. Tim -- Tim Cross The e-mail address on this message is FALSE (obviously!). My real e-mail is to a company in Australia called rapttech and my login is tcross - if you really need to send mail, you should be able to work it out!