From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thierry Volpiatto Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: mac os et emacs Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 07:31:02 +0100 Message-ID: <87bq9s6p5l.fsf@thievol.homelinux.org> References: <87zlxj4zd0.fsf@thievol.homelinux.org> <87bq9z2mxe.fsf@thievol.homelinux.org> <91FAFEEF-41CC-4315-9805-37CDC269985C@Web.DE> <877ikmy8wl.fsf@thievol.homelinux.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1195367479 32008 80.91.229.12 (18 Nov 2007 06:31:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 06:31:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 18 07:31:25 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Itdgi-00033a-8E for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 07:31:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ItdgV-0005k0-07 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 01:31:11 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ItdgE-0005jl-9Z for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 01:30:54 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ItdgC-0005jW-Co for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 01:30:53 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ItdgC-0005jT-1b for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 01:30:52 -0500 Original-Received: from sp604003mt.neufgp.fr ([84.96.92.56] helo=smTp.neuf.fr) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1ItdgB-0001l8-Ex for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 01:30:51 -0500 Original-Received: from thievol.homelinux.org ([88.141.71.248]) by sp604003mt.gpm.neuf.ld (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-5.05 (built Feb 16 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JRO000THVENSXL1@sp604003mt.gpm.neuf.ld> for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 07:30:24 +0100 (CET) In-reply-to: Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAHlBMVEUAAAD/eiojJC8HDgL9 q6CxcyAADQCPoKCbKDEHHjqGqpmkAAACZklEQVQ4jWVTwW7TQBAdZSSL61Jb8jFyVSXcth5inKPF RvSImwTtMSKSPwCoLG44xtKeyal/y9sN1G47x3meN7PvPdNZEzVNQzwTYhGtz8I6EnSJtUQHotni nWYSNA5ciFARkIK0Xvx8LBpmKRppDgyaI+YifLduf54bmpPkgQj0fp6Z1237XTTLyphtoanR4ktr Wv9p27kw7+xQ/WpI+LcxqcYOzhbtJ4x0tjNb0KxMUsdXOc7K2odsHvHK1upOSGLrXFdhZIZR84W4 BJBoKpVDxR9FBvSrnjnfd0ppulW+YuN2CYDNFu8fag90vm8HZSq1aX/sLS50ygO+n4qAVrk26+pU S+c7AehzKfvBnrLM2fi+BNNbodtKpXgudtus/VamXeU/3TKVddpDbxCc1o/nslr6fjKn4AEkI1Gn PJOhwjal7kPrUhKn17LcVbIKq8di3LWssU+cu6Zp3cQVtOg11GYINOEaIE3v/WQ9HeAPldr30TEk Y1rvoYnNF3O+ZOZpiCFm0gPwZh9IRrayUm5nHj4TFxgRfgJm0HQ/mHsfDSyZ7C9NEENk6YTlcbzq pg6WbSHezsp6BIYLcHej3D7ejKKsrPeyU8kN+ICPK4KVXZdmYTIdFYHzKlVpfwgpSMYdy770KdgW pUf6iVgS2DbIl0JWJoAuA3ttKifRREjNF6BLeqHjFIi+eiCxIs/8gKpHHx343fAzLGqOiA5iLi+c wj+ZIwcswZBJ+Zin7jqwPANY8h1+h+00U6HPOsdV5opelrDXwvTRK2C2dC/S+e/cN9bV6vQawA+R 1Fa/7vtXIAb/c/MXBLaluuFkJS8AAAAASUVORK5CYII= User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Windows 98 (3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:49315 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >>> Count the number of buttons on the pointing device as well. >>> Especially if you like to use Emacs which makes good use of all >>> 3 buttons. > >> It's perfectly okay to use other producers' mice on Apple's machines. > > I believe we're talking laptops here, so the number of buttons is > relevant, unless you always use your laptop with a mouse on the side. > I don't, and I don't know anybody who does. > >>> Stefan "Thinkpad addict" >> That Thinkpad doesn't have a touchpad keeps me away from it.. > > All Thinkpad keyboards have both trackpoints and touchpads (except that > one on the X series). > I do agree that the two-finger motion on the Thinkpad touchpad doesn't > work as nicely as on the Macbook Pro because the touchpad is a good > bit smaller. > >>> PS: I'm personally not sure that Apple is any less evil than Microsoft. > >> At least Apple is more friendly to free software(or open source >> software) community. > > That's the thing of which I'm not sure. Maybe it is. But I fear that > it's simply much more clever, and instead of fighting the community it > pretends to play along with it. But if you look at the way it tries to > lock its users, it smells like bad old proprietary all the way. I agree, it's one of the reasons of my choice between a Dell laptop with unbuntu and a Macbook. -- A + Thierry pubkey: http://pgp.mit.edu/