From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ian Zimmerman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Poll about proposed change in DEL (aka Backspace) and Delete Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2011 09:17:17 -0700 Message-ID: <87botwafzm.fsf@foolinux.dyndns.org> References: <87litcvtu2.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87fwj95689.wl%lists@groll.co.za> <71CFF75123EE4102BED12F8A422EF6B9@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1317745072 12667 80.91.229.12 (4 Oct 2011 16:17:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 16:17:52 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 04 18:17:46 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RB7gb-0004fR-6M for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 18:17:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42950 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RB7ga-0006CW-Mf for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 12:17:40 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:38966) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RB7gS-00068x-0F for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 12:17:36 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RB7gQ-0001qG-QH for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 12:17:31 -0400 Original-Received: from li225-69.members.linode.com ([173.255.215.69]:51069 helo=ahiker.homeip.net) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RB7gQ-0001pX-MC for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 12:17:30 -0400 Original-Received: from adsl-75-30-78-201.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net ([75.30.78.201] helo=matica) by ahiker.homeip.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RB7gJ-0000RN-Oe for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 09:17:23 -0700 In-Reply-To: <71CFF75123EE4102BED12F8A422EF6B9@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Tue, 4 Oct 2011 06:33:23 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 173.255.215.69 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:82453 Archived-At: Drew> interactions between Emacs selection/region and standard paste Drew> buffers/clipboards/selections were changed, with no poll - and it Drew> is not obvious to a user how to customize Emacs to get back the Drew> old behavior.] This is one of my few longtime gripes with Emacs, so I would be _very_ interested in the details of the change. Are they written up anywhere? If not, could you summarize them here? Drew> Transient mark mode is already turned on now in Emacs, by default. Drew> The proposed change does not implement or replace delete-selection Drew> mode. What it does is make DEL delete the active region. The Drew> second proposed change lets characters you type replace the active Drew> region. Let us settle this once and for ever: would the proposal currently under consideration change _anything_ for users who set transient-mark-mode to nil ? -- Ian Zimmerman gpg public key: 1024D/C6FF61AD fingerprint: 66DC D68F 5C1B 4D71 2EE5 BD03 8A00 786C C6FF 61AD Rule 420: All persons more than eight miles high to leave the court.