From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Pascal J. Bourguignon" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: making software with Emacs and Elisp Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 03:51:22 +0200 Organization: Informatimago Message-ID: <87bo2kiuat.fsf@informatimago.com> References: <87iows218z.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1382232491 24323 80.91.229.3 (20 Oct 2013 01:28:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 01:28:11 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 20 03:28:17 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VXhoW-0003Yh-Tj for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 03:28:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34843 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VXhoW-0003a4-Al for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 21:28:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56012) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VXhoG-0003Zu-K1 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 21:28:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VXhoB-0007y0-KP for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 21:28:00 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:57605) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VXhoB-0007xh-CC for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 21:27:55 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VXhoA-0003OL-28 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 03:27:54 +0200 Original-Received: from amontsouris-651-1-117-120.w83-202.abo.wanadoo.fr ([83.202.52.120]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 03:27:54 +0200 Original-Received: from pjb by amontsouris-651-1-117-120.w83-202.abo.wanadoo.fr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 03:27:54 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 41 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: amontsouris-651-1-117-120.w83-202.abo.wanadoo.fr Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwAQMAAABtzGvEAAAABlBMVEUAAAD///+l2Z/dAAAA oElEQVR4nK3OsRHCMAwF0O8YQufUNIQRGIAja9CxSA55AxZgFO4coMgYrEDDQZWPIlNAjwq9 033pbOBPtbXuB6PKNBn5gZkhGa86Z4x2wE67O+06WxGD/HCOGR0deY3f9Ijwwt7rNGNf6Oac l/GuZTF1wFGKiYYHKSFAkjIo1b6sCYS1sVmFhhhahKQssRjRT90ITWUk6vvK3RsPGs+M1RuR mV+hO/VvFAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Accept-Language: fr, es, en User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:OTk0Zjg5Y2ZkYTExY2U0ODlhNzU4ZmRiZjRjODcyMWEyMmM1NDE2MA== X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:94107 Archived-At: Emanuel Berg writes: > Barry OReilly writes: > >>> I have several ideas for software that has to do with >>> physical things, and does not belong in the world of >>> computing. For example, I'm working on a tool to >>> teach deaf people read lips! (Not "Lisp".) >>> >>> Is there a minimal binary Emacs VM for the accursed >>> Apple and Windows world, that you could distribute >>> along with the software, or is there another way you >>> could make all that work? >> >> Having an Emacs that can run outside the world of >> computing could be difficult. > > Tools that deal with computers are ready to ship the > moment they work on your on system. But if I make a tool > for fishers, I don't demand that they are fluent in > Unix. On the contrary, I'd be happy if they use my > software on whatever system. > >> You could start by looking at the butterfly function >> though. > > There *is* such a function, it seems like a joke though. > > Unless I'm wrong, your post wasn't helpful. Well perhaps nobody implemented a M-x butterfly backend. But there are emacs backends for several commands with physical world effects, including M-x coffee (implementing the htcpcp protocol) and teledildonics. http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/CoffeeMode http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1sXuHnf_lo -- __Pascal Bourguignon__ http://www.informatimago.com/