From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: editor and word processor history (was: Re: RTF for emacs) Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 12:37:04 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <87bnuf1rjj.fsf@debian.uxu> References: <87ha4d64r2.fsf@robertthorpeconsulting.com> <87bnuho13m.fsf@debian.uxu> <874n09nz3c.fsf_-_@debian.uxu> <87d2ewmbtf.fsf@debian.uxu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1401446457 9488 80.91.229.3 (30 May 2014 10:40:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 10:40:57 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 30 12:40:52 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WqKF1-00078T-Nj for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 30 May 2014 12:40:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53055 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WqKF1-0006xb-9C for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 30 May 2014 06:40:51 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!goblin1!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 69 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: SIvZRMPqRkkTHAHL6NkRuw.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:qaljRsifHJ383H+9UnPSy4lnhus= Mail-Copies-To: never Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:205698 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:97968 Archived-At: James Freer writes: > Ws keybindings were the most efficient requiring less > movement across the keyboard. Yeah, but that's what I always say about the Emacs bindings. They are close and short, except a few, which I have redefined :) > DOS Word is popular too with writers it seems > e.g. George Martin. A friend sent me this interview with GRRM: - I have two computers, one for email, taxes, surfing, etc. And I have a writing computer, a DOS-machine, not connected to the internet. - A DOS machine? - Yeah, remember DOS? - I'm curious to why you would stick with this old program? - I use WordStar 4.0 (DOS) I like it, it does everything I want a word processing program to do, and it doesn't do anything else. I don't want any help, you know, I hate some of these modern systems where you type a lower case letter and it becomes capital. I don't want it capital, If I wanted it capital, I would have typed it capital, I know how to work the shift key! I hate spell check, especially since I write about the realm of 'Orbitor'. > We are all writers in the sense we use a word > processor. Or an editor (which of course processes words in the general sense, just as a word processor edits files in the general sense). > I may be wrong but for me I find a console is less > tiring on the eyes... That's absolutely right but I suspect that has to do with the color scheme (bright-on-dark), much less distractions and movements (none, unless you type), and no mouse use where you have to squeeze your eyes and "aim", move you hand back and forth (look down to "reset"), and such things. > another reason for me considering emacs, the console > version will fit in with my console email client. Yeah, I use Gnus, the other guy use RMAIL, that's very common and a huge advantage. > To me emacs offers a lot for a writer, and I am > experimenting with the WS keybindings but I think > there is a bit of adjustment if one then switches to > Org or something similar. Remaining with emacs > keybindings is perhaps a better move. Yes. -- underground experts united: http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573