From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rasmus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Why flip RET and C-j with electric-indent-mode? Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 13:31:40 +0100 Message-ID: <87bnnqfas3.fsf@gmx.us> References: <20141128153825244895059@bob.proulx.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1417264349 29801 80.91.229.3 (29 Nov 2014 12:32:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 12:32:29 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 29 13:32:22 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XuhCH-0008Dl-JB for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 13:32:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47415 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XuhCG-0006yC-W4 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 07:32:21 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39403) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XuhBy-0006y3-Ol for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 07:32:08 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XuhBs-0000Od-57 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 07:32:02 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:40512) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XuhBr-0000OR-UF for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 07:31:56 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XuhBq-00082c-FE for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 13:31:54 +0100 Original-Received: from 168.96.135.37.dynamic.jazztel.es ([37.135.96.168]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 13:31:54 +0100 Original-Received: from rasmus by 168.96.135.37.dynamic.jazztel.es with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 13:31:54 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 15 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 168.96.135.37.dynamic.jazztel.es Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwCAAAAAByaaZbAAAAAmJLR0QA/4ePzL8AAAAJcEhZ cwAAAEgAAABIAEbJaz4AAAINSURBVEjH1ZbLcRtBEENVnRESQShIBZEgFsQwmfgwuxJlzsr20Tyy 5hH9Bz/mHz8f/w0A4F8AiJKImcHfAJDo2DHxJnUCSMl2kkQy8QcAJG+gaWv8AQAo+37eNvwbhaRt 11rfiY+TALgj+iSSH4HPHPb7tdaLxDtAkFR2zl2rq211AHALgLmL1HZ1rcbvAISdMkCSctqmW8AH gNaV8paikiY7ab+HBJlXTTHDjSjuahvhHdg/AsoEfX/JpK1PAK85si2SGIDWgEqj9z7ckdOORZKk r+Lw1OmdLMAksSSTbu7eHDpNbmCPtW3JDS1+W6MXQLySzrUJciPK1BGAOAPSX0BaS7KB0ywBA1Jb wSadlSZtXhb1FeA9qLFN2Vld7arBJ0CS5NgAlD1HDaDTPpAg93tiBlTSNtG5rEOAIuV76cFkNQHP VQJAivqSH7WN5nw1dsYiX07EpDUe7tIGSO4C3xKxzgD2opGcXStcADg/A5I0IM2Z4dcy/wDsotCa UfAAAAAFQr6AMYcvm/OeNEWCtHVtNGk/GAqugABATmI5tvXgQCBBi9iB7Uuc3wt6ASIoCZAJzAw/ /URHj4ttOSKju6cAKfFsitcCR+K3IYDOPvrRtpEdMi/eJGueFNomibAlMDN0/GDUH23XiptEGA60 74CejD1tV7cVhANxH43Hvw7taleSpCsYkk3CJ+AXriLS9q3U4kkAAAAASUVORK5CYII= User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:NAdeglUmjeD1MQanOGwDmrsXqM0= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:101290 Archived-At: Bob Proulx writes: > So why did emacs flip RET and C-j with electric-indent-mode? It has > always been that typing RET in fundamental mode would insert a > newline. C-j would insert a newline and indent. This is now broken > in emacs24.4 and later. Now those two actions are reversed! > Aaarrrgghh! I really like this change. . . Reminds me that commentary of python.el should be updated. —Rasmus -- This space is left intentionally blank