From: phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk (Phillip Lord)
To: "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com>
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs Book Vs Emacs Manuals
Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 12:17:03 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bnhrl5xs.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y4kwcyti.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> (Pascal J. Bourguignon's message of "Sun, 10 May 2015 16:05:45 +0200")
"Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com> writes:
>> Now if the cursor-keys didn't work it would not be so bad
>> And ideal would be for them to work AND be documented
>> But works and NOT documented/demoed in tutorial... and there are serious
>> allegations of ATTITUDE!
>
> I can't believe it. Do you teach retards?
I teach intelligent, interested and engaged students, whom it is my
pleasure and privilege to introduce to programming, and show them how to
take charge of their own computers, and have the computers work for
them, rather than the other way around. I am sure that Rusi is in the
same position.
Over time, the experiences of people change, and the knowledge that they
bring with them changes. This makes some things harder to understand,
some things easier. For instance, I have the majority of my students got
to grips with git in a day or two (which I was not expecting),
something which has caused grief here. But running "hello world" in
python in Emacs not easy. "Eval buffer" -- what's that then? And even
once you've done that, where has it gone, because the shell isn't
visible.
Phil
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2015-05-08 10:06 Emacs Book Vs Emacs Manuals Vaidheeswaran C
2015-05-08 10:36 ` Shakthi Kannan
2015-05-08 10:43 ` Vaidheeswaran C
2015-05-08 11:08 ` tomas
2015-05-08 11:18 ` Shakthi Kannan
2015-05-08 19:10 ` Bob Proulx
2015-05-08 19:35 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-05-10 2:48 ` Bob Proulx
[not found] ` <mailman.2686.1431226098.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-05-10 3:22 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-05-10 14:01 ` Rusi
2015-05-10 14:05 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-05-11 11:17 ` Phillip Lord [this message]
[not found] ` <mailman.2758.1431343034.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-05-11 11:27 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-05-10 15:31 ` Drew Adams
2015-05-11 11:08 ` Phillip Lord
2015-05-15 16:15 ` MBR
2015-05-15 18:45 ` Doug Lewan
[not found] ` <mailman.3085.1431715560.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-05-15 20:18 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-05-16 4:31 ` Yuri Khan
2015-05-18 20:57 ` Bob Proulx
2015-06-25 14:22 ` Ken Goldman
2015-06-26 15:03 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-06-26 20:21 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-06-26 22:42 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-06-27 19:29 ` MBR
2015-06-27 22:48 ` Emanuel Berg
[not found] ` <mailman.5813.1435445379.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-06-28 3:45 ` Rusi
2015-06-28 14:34 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-06-28 15:31 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-06-28 15:36 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-06-28 15:53 ` Emanuel Berg
[not found] ` <mailman.5747.1435358641.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-06-27 3:15 ` Rusi
2015-06-27 5:02 ` Bob Proulx
2015-06-27 8:25 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-06-27 11:56 ` Robert Thorpe
[not found] ` <mailman.5780.1435406221.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-06-27 14:44 ` Rusi
2015-06-27 17:46 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-06-27 17:42 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-06-29 13:03 ` Filipp Gunbin
2015-06-29 23:51 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-06-30 4:38 ` Vaidheeswaran C
2015-06-30 23:26 ` Emanuel Berg
[not found] ` <mailman.6072.1435707010.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-07-01 0:32 ` Dan Espen
2015-06-30 8:10 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-06-30 23:40 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-06-30 16:56 ` Filipp Gunbin
2015-07-01 0:00 ` Emanuel Berg
[not found] ` <mailman.5799.1435427076.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-06-27 18:12 ` Rusi
2015-06-27 21:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-06-27 22:25 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-06-30 10:56 ` keyboard-macro facility recording commands (Was: Emacs Book Vs Emacs Manuals) Steinar Bang
[not found] ` <mailman.5809.1435442174.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-06-27 22:06 ` Emacs Book Vs Emacs Manuals Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-06-27 22:40 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-06-28 14:55 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-06-28 15:47 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-06-25 14:16 ` Ken Goldman
[not found] ` <mailman.3077.1431706537.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-05-15 20:15 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-05-08 10:53 ` Tassilo Horn
2015-05-08 13:39 ` Phillip Lord
2015-05-08 14:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-08 14:38 ` Tassilo Horn
2015-05-08 15:09 ` Phillip Lord
2015-05-08 15:41 ` Tassilo Horn
2015-05-08 21:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-05-09 10:00 ` Vaidheeswaran C
2015-05-10 14:31 ` Steinar Bang
[not found] ` <mailman.2604.1431095644.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-05-08 14:50 ` Barry Margolin
2015-05-08 15:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-08 22:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-05-09 9:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-09 9:18 ` Vaidheeswaran C
2015-05-09 10:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-10 6:47 ` Vaidheeswaran C
2015-05-10 15:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-11 5:30 ` Vaidheeswaran C
2015-05-11 16:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-16 5:50 ` Vaidheeswaran C
2015-05-16 7:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-17 15:35 ` Vaidheeswaran C
2015-05-17 14:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-18 2:49 ` Vaidheeswaran C
2015-05-18 14:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-19 5:50 ` Vaidheeswaran C
2015-05-19 15:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-19 16:41 ` Filipp Gunbin
[not found] ` <mailman.3246.1432014638.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-05-19 23:58 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-05-10 2:45 ` Bob Proulx
2015-05-11 10:53 ` Phillip Lord
2015-05-11 15:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-11 16:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-05-11 16:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-11 16:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-11 18:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-05-11 20:38 ` Marcin Borkowski
[not found] ` <mailman.2820.1431376739.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-05-12 3:22 ` Rusi
[not found] ` <<83y4kvkrf5.fsf@gnu.org>
2015-05-11 17:12 ` Drew Adams
2015-05-11 17:11 ` Drew Adams
2015-05-11 18:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-05-11 18:38 ` Drew Adams
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2015-05-12 4:07 ` Rusi
2015-05-12 8:15 ` Rasmus
2015-05-12 16:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2015-05-12 16:55 ` Rusi
2015-05-12 17:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-13 7:47 ` tomas
2015-05-13 12:10 ` Filipp Gunbin
2015-05-13 12:32 ` tomas
2015-05-13 15:24 ` Filipp Gunbin
2015-05-13 16:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.2958.1431535075.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-05-15 2:56 ` Rusi
2015-05-15 7:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2015-05-15 11:12 ` Rusi
2015-05-15 13:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-15 13:44 ` Phillip Lord
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2015-05-15 14:01 ` Rusi
2015-05-15 14:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2015-05-13 1:09 ` Rusi
2015-05-13 2:20 ` Drew Adams
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2015-05-11 17:27 ` Rusi
2015-05-20 0:21 ` Robert Thorpe
2015-05-08 16:35 ` Sivaram Neelakantan
2015-05-09 10:14 ` Vaidheeswaran C
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2015-05-08 13:34 ` notbob
2015-05-08 15:50 ` Drew Adams
2015-05-09 9:49 ` Vaidheeswaran C
2015-05-09 14:21 ` Jude DaShiell
2015-05-08 19:10 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-05-09 7:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-09 8:07 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-05-09 8:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-09 17:34 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-05-11 11:02 ` Phillip Lord
2015-05-11 16:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-11 17:20 ` Phillip Lord
2015-05-11 18:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2015-05-11 17:11 ` Drew Adams
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2015-05-09 22:59 ` Emanuel Berg
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