From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Nick Dokos Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs user manual in Spanish Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2017 12:34:34 -0400 Message-ID: <87bmoxle1x.fsf@alphaville.usersys.redhat.com> References: <20170702082424.GA3364@workstation> <86h8yuy7v1.fsf@zoho.com> <5ac97eb4-d897-4c35-b095-e76250398400@default> <8637aexz6l.fsf@zoho.com> <86o9t2wjhe.fsf@zoho.com> <87shiebe96.fsf@wanadoo.es> <77DD6B65-5E66-4182-8433-F6528025C82C@gmail.com> <86h8yuw8qt.fsf@zoho.com> <8760f9mlgl.fsf@alphaville.usersys.redhat.com> <3E7EC386-0967-4456-B17A-982C6842CD6C@gmail.com> <87podelqg7.fsf@alphaville.usersys.redhat.com> <22978085-253A-4AB8-AC00-DA1F19E76705@gmail.com> <87fue9lmq5.fsf@alphaville.usersys.redhat.com> <87mv8hfzzh.fsf@rosalinde> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1499358930 6576 195.159.176.226 (6 Jul 2017 16:35:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 16:35:30 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 06 18:35:26 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dT9kS-0001M3-2R for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Jul 2017 18:35:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52364 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dT9kX-00041m-2x for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Jul 2017 12:35:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59688) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dT9k2-000415-8I for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Jul 2017 12:34:59 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dT9jx-0002O8-AM for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Jul 2017 12:34:58 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=37868 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dT9jx-0002NW-3B for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Jul 2017 12:34:53 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dT9jj-0007jh-C6 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Jul 2017 18:34:39 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 68 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:emWsfa4h335x8PVYCXDSIpqOorw= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:113716 Archived-At: Stephen Berman writes: > On Thu, 06 Jul 2017 09:27:14 -0400 Nick Dokos wrote: > >> Jean-Christophe Helary writes: >> >>>> On Jul 6, 2017, at 2:54, Nick Dokos wrote: >>>> >>>> Jean-Christophe Helary writes: >>>> >>>>>> On Jul 4, 2017, at 3:20, Nick Dokos wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> ... I seem to remember that a few years >>>>>>> ago, Japan was considering adopting English as its official >>>>>>> language... Talk about silly... >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't believe that at all - do you have a reference? >>>>> >>>>> Google is your friend. >>>>> >>>> >>>> I did google it: there are various articles about (generally multinational) >>>> companies >>>> adopting English as their "official" language. The only article I found about the >>>> country doing so was a satirical piece about "Engrish". >>>> >>>> So I repeat: do you have a reference? >>> >>> Are you genuinely asking for a reference ? Are you actually reading >>> this thread or just trolling ? I gave plenty of reference in the >>> discussion. So find yourself the relevant keywords and do the search >>> again. >>> >> >> You gave absolutely no references - I read the discussion as it was >> happening, but I also went back and read every response of >> yours. Obviously, this is a tangential point, but it is interesting to >> me, so I googled and got zilch: maybe my google-fu is weak, which is >> why I asked for a reference. So if you have one, I'd appreciate it. >> If not, just say so. > > How about this? > > http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/adv/wol/dy/opinion/culture_100823.html > Thanks - I did find that and it contains some useful references but I was looking for a more "official" position, not an opinion piece (not necessarily a statement by the government, but something from a reputable source reporting that the government was considering it). Also, this is dated Aug. 23, 2010. There are plenty of Japanese multinationals that are adopting English as their "official" language. That certainly creates pressure on the government to adopt a more flexible policy: I wondered whether there is any tangible manifestation of that pressure having any effect on the government (yet). Again, I realize this is tangential and I don't want to hijack the thread any more than I have already. If anybody finds additional references, I will gladly accept them in private email. The Google search I tried by the way was "japan english official language" and several variations that didn't really change much. Thanks! -- Nick