From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Amin Bandali Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Alternative mail providers Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2019 10:15:16 -0500 Message-ID: <87bm36o5iz.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <20190218122758037230128@bob.proulx.com> <5b2967d4-2428-c475-c37c-021c52cdca40@gmail.com> <834l90jvri.fsf@gnu.org> <1ac0dbd6-5d0e-52f4-d34c-d89391e89f43@gmail.com> <87k1hv65gh.fsf_-_@fencepost.gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="156321"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 20 17:08:34 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1gwUQD-000eVx-E0 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2019 17:08:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41673 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gwUQC-0003MF-AF for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2019 11:08:32 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:60122) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gwU7Q-0003bK-Fu for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2019 10:49:10 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:60615) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gwTgh-0006Pn-89 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2019 10:21:39 -0500 Original-Received: from [2607:fea8:3b80:184::3] (port=40266 helo=localhost) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1gwTgA-0007b5-Qr for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2019 10:21:20 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Van L.'s message of "Wed, 20 Feb 2019 21:21:08 +1100") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:119484 Archived-At: On 2019-02-20 9:21 PM, Van L wrote: [...] > ProtonMail may prove too hard to > make work inside of Emacs. If > anyone knows how I'd like to know. > Yes, in that case I=E2=80=99d recommend against ProtonMail. I haven=E2=80= =99t used it personally (only briefly tried it when it first came out) but it appears that they don=E2=80=99t support IMAP and SMTP out of the box. They do seem= to have a =E2=80=9Cbridge=E2=80=9D that you=E2=80=99d install on your system t= hat provides a local IMAP/SMTP interface for use with your email clients and then sends your emails to the server. Two major downsides of it are that firstly it=E2=80= =99s proprietary, and secondly you need a paid account to use the bridge. There does seem to be a free software implementation called hydroxide[1] which was presumably created by reverse engineering the ProtonMail web app and APIs; might be worth a shot. Otherwise, I=E2=80=99d recommend Disr= oot or one of the other community-based alternatives I mentioned before. [1]: https://github.com/emersion/hydroxide > > https://gandi.net > > I found gandi.net when I looked up > who Debian registered their name > with, a long time ago. > > For $10 per year (thereabouts) you > can buy a vanity domain with 5 > mailboxes. Then it is possible to > make that work inside Gnus. > Gandi is a nice domain registrar, but I haven=E2=80=99t tried their mail offerings. But I do know at least on one other list on lists.gnu.org folks were having trouble with bounces etc due to one person=E2=80=99s use = of Gandi mail. IIRC they raised the issue with Gandi but I can=E2=80=99t reme= mber if it were fixed or not. > > Has anyone had success in using a > .authinfo.gpg for Gnus? > I didn=E2=80=99t have any trouble setting it up to use with the nnimap back= end. Does a line like this not work in your ~/.authinfo.gpg? machine accnamehere login email@here password passwordhere Though there does seem to be a bug such that long username+password combinations cause the password to be truncated when calling the IMAP server. I reported it a few days ago[2] but didn=E2=80=99t get any replies= yet, and I haven=E2=80=99t had time to look into it myself. [2]: https://lists.gnu.org/r/bug-gnu-emacs/2019-02/msg00424.html