From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?B?7Zmp67OR7Z2s?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: [DMARC Sucks!] (Was Re: Google Gmail mailing list bounces) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 11:53:43 +0900 Organization: =?utf-8?B?6YeR6Zm1ICjsl7Dsm5DsnZgg66eI7J2MKQ==?= Message-ID: <87bm2fzdqg.fsf_-_@delta.birch.chromebook> References: <83lg2bivne.fsf@gnu.org> <20190219095700191526550@bob.proulx.com> <83d0nnit0o.fsf@gnu.org> <20190220115853855643126@bob.proulx.com> <83imxegskr.fsf@gnu.org> <20190220152455054511191@bob.proulx.com> <835ztdgr10.fsf@gnu.org> <20190221170259478078146@bob.proulx.com> <868sxtt10a.fsf@zoho.eu> <87va0wc4dh.fsf@ra.horus-it.com> <867edbsuod.fsf@zoho.eu> <87va0ukugq.fsf@ra.horus-it.com> <865zsnh8kb.fsf@zoho.eu> <8736nrtuik.fsf@ra.horus-it.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="158051"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 13 04:16:16 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1h3uNM-000f1F-F1 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 04:16:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37337 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h3uNK-0001Z4-Cb for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Mar 2019 23:16:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:52571) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h3u4b-0001eu-Ec for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Mar 2019 22:56:54 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h3u1l-0002KH-68 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Mar 2019 22:53:58 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=57528 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h3u1k-0002Jh-UU for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Mar 2019 22:53:57 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1h3u1i-000Fs8-TR for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 03:53:54 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ X-Operating-System: =?utf-8?B?4omqZGluZ+KJqw==?= -- The Gnus X-Gnus-Motto: In a cloud bones of steel. X-Debbugs-CC: soyeomul@red-october.yw.doraji.xyz Cancel-Lock: sha1:qotalgLrCIr9geKrhZzQV+eSspQ= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:119618 Archived-At: On Wed, Mar 13 2019, Ralph Seichter wrote: > * Emanuel Berg: > >> Yeah, but is this something that is mandatory to have? Is this (the >> lack of a DKIM sig) the explanation to the problem with my mail [...] > > Are you aware of how DMARC works, in detail? DMARC relies on both DKIM > and SPF. https://dmarcian.com/domain-checker/?domain=zoho.eu shows that > the DMARC policy for this domain is "reject". Since you don't use DKIM > signatures, it is down to only SPF, so if the SPF check fails, the DMARC > policy applies. > > That means you ask the recipient MTA to reject all mail apparently > originating at zoho.eu whenever the SPF check is unsuccessful. Adding > DKIM to the mix is no silver bullet, but I personally would not publish > DMARC policies "quarantine" or "reject" had I only SPF at my disposal! Indeed, i don't like DMARC's alignment policy. So i removed all dmarc stuffs in my domain's DNS. Actually she breaks all mails from Mailing lists. -- ^고맙습니다 _地平天成_ 감사합니다_^))//