From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: answer from Zoho Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 10:24:11 -0700 Message-ID: <87blzj26v8.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <864l5jf8pm.fsf@zoho.eu> <20190525063147.GD31415@tuxteam.de> <86h89jdkqw.fsf_-_@zoho.eu> <20190525115453.GB12528@tuxteam.de> <86v9xvb1dh.fsf@zoho.eu> <86imtvb0nq.fsf@zoho.eu> <86ef4jasoe.fsf@zoho.eu> <20190528083958.GB31104@tuxteam.de> <86sgsz9cv3.fsf@zoho.eu> <20190528085955.GD31104@tuxteam.de> <861s0h6opz.fsf_-_@zoho.eu> <87r28gz5t3.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es> <86zhn441et.fsf@zoho.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="144066"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 30 19:24:41 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hWOn9-000bN6-VD for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 30 May 2019 19:24:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57055 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hWOn8-0005Tc-Ug for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 30 May 2019 13:24:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:41484) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hWOmt-0005TT-K6 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 30 May 2019 13:24:24 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hWOmr-00086m-QH for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 30 May 2019 13:24:22 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=44778 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hWOmr-0007mW-60 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 30 May 2019 13:24:21 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hWOmn-000axQ-7C for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 30 May 2019 19:24:17 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Cancel-Lock: sha1:fJe0f6QrICRrU4DSmqGt6GUXJlg= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:120703 Archived-At: Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs writes: > Alberto Luaces wrote: > >>>> Kindly try sending emails only through Zoho >>>> Webmail or from an Authenticated SMTP >>>> server to avoid such inconveniences. >>> >>> I'm not ever going to use your >>> web interface. >> >> Sorry, it isn't clear to me if you are using >> their STMP server. > > It isn't to me, either :) > > But you refer to this, right > > smtpmail-smtp-server is a variable defined > in ‘smtpmail.el’. Its value is > "smtp.zoho.eu" > > ? > > Good point, I'll write to them and clarify... But that's not the problem -- I'm sure emails that Emanuel is sending directly from Gnus via Zoho's SMTP servers are not causing anyone any trouble. The problem is emails he's sending to this mailing list: they were once sent on from the mailing list's server, but with Emanuel's address in the envelope from, which is exactly what Zoho's DMARC policy doesn't allow. Now the mailing list is configured so that, when it sees that policy in place, it uses the mailing list itself in the envelope from instead, which is legal. At least, I hope I've understood that correctly! What I had assumed was, if we're all using nntp, this might not be an issue. But obviously there's much I don't know, as well! Eric