* Metaprogramming
@ 2019-09-15 3:13 Shyam Nath
2019-09-15 7:32 ` Metaprogramming Teemu Likonen
2019-09-15 13:22 ` Metaprogramming Stefan Monnier
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From: Shyam Nath @ 2019-09-15 3:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
🖖 Hello World,
This is a query from over half a decade ago: https://stackoverflow.com/q/22224045
I want to redefine functions by manipulating the pre-existing function; is there any way to do this?
I'd rather not just copy the whole function definition into my init.el file just to change one LOC; maybe there's a better way of doing this part instead?
LIVE LONG AND PROSPER \V/,
AGENT S.
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* Re: Metaprogramming
2019-09-15 3:13 Metaprogramming Shyam Nath
@ 2019-09-15 7:32 ` Teemu Likonen
2019-09-15 9:39 ` Metaprogramming Shyam Nath
2019-09-15 13:22 ` Metaprogramming Stefan Monnier
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From: Teemu Likonen @ 2019-09-15 7:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Shyam Nath, help-gnu-emacs
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Shyam Nath [2019-09-15T13:13:09+10] wrote:
> I want to redefine functions by manipulating the pre-existing
> function; is there any way to do this?
You can keep the original function code in a variable. Use that variable
to define the global function first and later all modified versions of
it.
(defvar function-code (lambda (...) ...))
(setf (symbol-function 'modifiable-function) function-code)
I think it is better to keep your defuns static and make them call
other functions which are stored in a variable or other predefined
place.
(defvar modifiable-function (lambda (...) ...))
(defun static-function (...)
;; ...
(funcall modifiable-function ...)
;; ...
)
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* Re: Metaprogramming
2019-09-15 7:32 ` Metaprogramming Teemu Likonen
@ 2019-09-15 9:39 ` Shyam Nath
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From: Shyam Nath @ 2019-09-15 9:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Teemu Likonen; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs
🖖 Hello Teemu,
I am doing the 2ⁿᵈ option: https://stackoverflow.com/a/15725437
How can I access functions before they load?
LIVE LONG AND PROSPER \V/,
AGENT S.
🕴
Migrating Infestive Bugs !!
---- On Sun, 15 Sep 2019 17:32:59 +1000 Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> wrote ----
Shyam Nath [2019-09-15T13:13:09+10] wrote:
> I want to redefine functions by manipulating the pre-existing
> function; is there any way to do this?
You can keep the original function code in a variable. Use that variable
to define the global function first and later all modified versions of
it.
(defvar function-code (lambda (...) ...))
(setf (symbol-function 'modifiable-function) function-code)
I think it is better to keep your defuns static and make them call
other functions which are stored in a variable or other predefined
place.
(defvar modifiable-function (lambda (...) ...))
(defun static-function (...)
;; ...
(funcall modifiable-function ...)
;; ...
)
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* Re: Metaprogramming
2019-09-15 3:13 Metaprogramming Shyam Nath
2019-09-15 7:32 ` Metaprogramming Teemu Likonen
@ 2019-09-15 13:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-09-15 14:36 ` Metaprogramming Stefan Monnier
2019-09-15 19:03 ` Metaprogramming Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
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From: Stefan Monnier @ 2019-09-15 13:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
> This is a query from over half a decade ago: https://stackoverflow.com/q/22224045
That's not exactly about meta-programming, but rather about a peliminary
step you may (or may not) need for some meta-programming tasks.
> I want to redefine functions by manipulating the pre-existing
> function; is there any way to do this?
Yes, of course. For example `advice-add` lets you do that.
> I'd rather not just copy the whole function definition into my init.el file
> just to change one LOC;
> maybe there's a better way of doing this part instead?
Then it depends on the specifics:
- what line of code?
- is the function usually compiled?
- is the source code available?
- is there a way to get that result differently?
Stefan
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* Re: Metaprogramming
2019-09-15 13:22 ` Metaprogramming Stefan Monnier
@ 2019-09-15 14:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-09-15 19:03 ` Metaprogramming Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
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From: Stefan Monnier @ 2019-09-15 14:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
> Then it depends on the specifics:
> - what line of code?
> - is the function usually compiled?
> - is the source code available?
> - is there a way to get that result differently?
BTW, you may want to look at `el-patch`.
Stefan
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* Re: Metaprogramming
2019-09-15 13:22 ` Metaprogramming Stefan Monnier
2019-09-15 14:36 ` Metaprogramming Stefan Monnier
@ 2019-09-15 19:03 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
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From: Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor @ 2019-09-15 19:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Stefan Monnier wrote:
>> This is a query from over half a decade ago:
>> https://stackoverflow.com/q/22224045
>
> That's not exactly about meta-programming [...]
"Metaprogramming is a programming technique in
which computer programs have the ability to
treat other programs as their data. It means
that a program can be designed to read,
generate, analyze or transform other programs,
and even modify itself while running." [1]
One should probably have a good, or at least
explicit reason to do any of that, since
otherwise it'll just make things complicated
where they don't have to be. However if one
finds such a use case and pulls it off, that's
programming at the next level, no doubt.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaprogramming
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