From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How users start programming in Emacs Lisp... Date: Mon, 31 May 2021 01:02:12 +0200 Message-ID: <87bl8resgb.fsf@zoho.eu> References: <87k0ngggkq.fsf@zoho.eu> <87h7ijg9ls.fsf@zoho.eu> <87v96zet60.fsf@zoho.eu> Reply-To: Emanuel Berg Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="30024"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:+4/6RHIzEXDDjaYgbgRznOX5+yA= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon May 31 01:05:33 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lnUUv-0007bf-6i for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 31 May 2021 01:05:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42718 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lnUUt-0001Os-CP for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 30 May 2021 19:05:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:47734) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lnUUV-0001OX-ME for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 May 2021 19:05:07 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:45482) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lnUUT-0002G5-Eb for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 May 2021 19:05:06 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lnUUQ-00070P-Gu for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 31 May 2021 01:05:02 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:130373 Archived-At: Jean Louis wrote: >> People use Emacs in the corporate world like this? > > Text editors are widely used. What a question... have you > not seen black console screens in companies in Sweden, even > DOS is used in many modern places in the world because some > software simply works well. Never, they have dedicated business systems for this... >> They don't have special software, business software being >> produced and marketed by some business? > > It is difficult with other people's software. I have tried > it, it is not reliable. Example is the SugarCRM before so > many years, failures on upgrades would block the business. > Today they dropped the free software version, imagine what > disaster would that be if I would be still using it. Well then, tell them to use Emacs instead. That will organize up the whole place in many the most unexpected ways :) -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal