From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?Colin_Baxter_=F0=9F=98=BA?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Kill all proportional fonts! 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Is there any emacs-init >> setting I can use to banish proportional fonts totally from emacs >> - preferably forever. > The Modus themes provide a straightforward boolean user option > (modus-themes-variable-pitch-ui) to opt in to proportional fonts; > FWIW, I think it would make sense for Emacs to provide similar > user options (e.g. ui-use-variable-pitch, shr-use-variable-pitch, > outline-use-variable-pitch). > IMO it would be more user-friendly and robust than advising users > to tweak face attributes themselves. Consider the snippet we put > in NEWS during last month's mode-line experiment: >> (set-face-attribute 'mode-line nil :inherit 'default) > This puts the onus on the user to check future releases to make > sure the mode-line face is not supposed to inherit from other > elements beside variable-pitch. Conversely, Modus-style booleans > mean the user can rest easy assuming Emacs will DTRT. I agree. I personally don't like having to alter my ~/.emacs just to stay t= he same. I think it should be the other way round - but what do I know? Best wishes, Colin Baxter.