From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Philip Kaludercic Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Should prefix variable be used in function argument list Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2022 08:59:15 +0000 Message-ID: <87bktymzks.fsf@posteo.net> References: <87let3mrji.fsf@posteo.net> <874jzrbiew.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87k08na30p.fsf@dataswamp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13986"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 09 11:00:01 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oA6Jk-0003Uc-S9 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2022 11:00:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60296 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oA6Jj-00075k-TR for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2022 04:59:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50934) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oA6JC-00075J-3e for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2022 04:59:26 -0400 Original-Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]:38249) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oA6J9-0006hC-KV for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2022 04:59:25 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CAC53240028 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2022 10:59:20 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1657357160; bh=BKJ2Xyld+odS/ooj10vGJd4zeEQaBVMo6wUwIU+N6Gs=; h=From:To:Subject:Autocrypt:Date:From; b=LQcQ5q+OXHK1JW3wQ7Sy21izsODynty20gyJvG3kkL68y7dj/rcyH3cnb/ADyAYgv 3A0xcja6Z4gJobUFLBzJe1BpZDy85U+CAZs+23VFh0Ml+I9Ms8nXo2lwFpYFp8Fi7P 5ZCuockqaI8Gu6omg9T8FJ5jRdYRlWYwBRDD/ERIoAiOUO2CwGwbhGTXdyTJqlHfdX Nai8/7nengyzHU/RTEuQ64tfQngjlwFLp/4RgIvO2aN3ks6/HPSu3+Uoz8hU4jzV/x OUOZbujCwX44MPnD2lQQbpd73i8qRxEB3ORklJ3pSYXYefZDEengf2SdKR2w/z5cah PmWqqaQuV4yJg== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4Lg3x42gLHz6tmj for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2022 10:59:20 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <87k08na30p.fsf@dataswamp.org> (Emanuel Berg's message of "Fri, 08 Jul 2022 20:11:02 +0200") Autocrypt: addr=philipk@posteo.net; prefer-encrypt=nopreference; keydata= mDMEYHHqUhYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdAp3GdmYJ6tm5McweY6dEvIYIiry+Oz9rU4MH6NHWK0Ee0QlBo aWxpcCBLYWx1ZGVyY2ljIChnZW5lcmF0ZWQgYnkgYXV0b2NyeXB0LmVsKSA8cGhpbGlwa0Bwb3N0 ZW8ubmV0PoiQBBMWCAA4FiEEDM2H44ZoPt9Ms0eHtVrAHPRh1FwFAmBx6lICGwMFCwkIBwIGFQoJ CAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQtVrAHPRh1FyTkgEAjlbGPxFchvMbxzAES3r8QLuZgCxeAXunM9gh io0ePtUBALVhh9G6wIoZhl0gUCbQpoN/UJHI08Gm1qDob5zDxnIHuDgEYHHqUhIKKwYBBAGXVQEF AQEHQNcRB+MUimTMqoxxMMUERpOR+Q4b1KgncDZkhrO2ql1tAwEIB4h4BBgWCAAgFiEEDM2H44Zo Pt9Ms0eHtVrAHPRh1FwFAmBx6lICGwwACgkQtVrAHPRh1Fw1JwD/Qo7kvtib8jy7puyWrSv0MeTS g8qIxgoRWJE/KKdkCLEA/jb9b9/g8nnX+UcwHf/4VfKsjExlnND3FrBviXUW6NcB Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=philipk@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:138403 Archived-At: Emanuel Berg writes: >>> No, I don't think there is any general rule here. >>> Some functions are meant for interactive use only >> >> Don't pick up a habit doing that ... Of course, but sometimes it does make sense to do so (and the `declare' system allows for that to be done). > Check out the theory on MVC for why ... > > Check out the practice of annoying little Elisp pointers in > help mode for why ... I would appreciate it if you could explain what you are talking about instead of just insinuating points. > Actually they are useful! So the annoyance should be directed > at the practice which they try to correct at a later stage. > That would be more fair. (Also, why do you always just respond to the list and don't CC the person you are responding too)