From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: GNUS: how to see all recent messages? Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2022 06:50:14 -0800 Message-ID: <87bkpkt9w9.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <8735b225lb.fsf@osv.gnss.ru> <87a659dr6g.fsf@thaodan.de> <875yfwbdge.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87v8nwiato.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87zgd6q150.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <871qqhh956.fsf@dataswamp.org> <8735ax6qbt.fsf@dataswamp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22975"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:QdZdy2S2Tjzty5J2yI9/S83WajM= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 06 15:51:20 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1orgzX-0005fV-0u for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 06 Nov 2022 15:51:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1orgyk-0000CC-Jc; Sun, 06 Nov 2022 09:50:30 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1orgyi-0000Bd-AS for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Nov 2022 09:50:28 -0500 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1orgyd-0003fW-H2 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Nov 2022 09:50:28 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1orgyb-0004S2-L1 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Nov 2022 15:50:21 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:140737 Archived-At: Emanuel Berg writes: >>> And you will find, or at least I do, that the old articles >>> inserted are not necessarily the most recent. It depends on >>> what groups make up the virtual group. I know there was >>> a discussion about this behaviour some months ago now on >>> the gnus list. >> >> Okay, but that means the virtual group isn't treated the >> same way as a regular group. >> >> Either this discrepancy is in the group itself or >> `gnus-summary-insert-old-articles' (and possibly other >> functions as well) branch and treat it differently for some >> reason ... > > I tried to tick articles and then open the group again. > They are gone! So OK then, virtual groups seems to be an > underpowered feature of Gnus ... The newer nnselect backend, which provides a superset of nnvirtual's functionality, doesn't have this problem with propagating marks to the backend. The question of how to draw the "most recent" articles from multiple constituent groups in an intuitive way is still an open issue, however...