From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thierry Volpiatto Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: What I'm missing when using M-x shell Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 21:50:24 +0200 Message-ID: <87abeb9667.fsf@tux.homenetwork> References: <38b2ab8a0809130943s58aed564seee22a18032c439a@mail.gmail.com> <87zlmc6jfx.fsf@tux.homenetwork> <38b2ab8a0809131214j5a956616l518b8a609e74f72a@mail.gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1221335673 3329 80.91.229.12 (13 Sep 2008 19:54:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 19:54:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, Dan Espen To: "Francis Moreau" Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 13 21:55:28 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KebDK-0006PJ-Lg for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 21:55:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54360 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KebC9-0000R9-ON for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:54:13 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KebBo-0000Nx-8H for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:53:52 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KebBm-0000LX-Gm for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:53:51 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=45984 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KebBm-0000LS-EK for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:53:50 -0400 Original-Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.184]:58891) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KebBl-0000U4-E8 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:53:50 -0400 Original-Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c7so793414nfi.26 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 12:53:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:cc:subject:references :date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=82uQ6sY5VCJ1+wndk53Hp5i6vck369o5WHgFkd4ki/k=; b=DJyTbX66HYJ5HxxhVjSAU8C8i21QSXi8ELMR9VfZSkau5xmviSQ6s9+V4DOYaGdj9K t59fw6A3fA7zm+ea/ingU9PgSsQurHLx+DWhaKVQNqZVva4orZzieWmHXiFPHNy3BABw RX3ALH9BhBUCvxcZ2a9Lg1Cy0guZ2ML1Hkxvg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; b=pEFSJFM6IIMw2i2b3mu2Umt02D3GqO+M60yI4RVbGRtjwpo+K7yb1XHIoKbLUXbM7u AHGm7/TKiHeIrHcnSMKy5rJt4kjiPRtFaYXDv/YD+IsdmmuETk43W6r4Eka4BjxdTidO Amq1G7pmGTSWjf4Vr3gYOY2SwrSaXMZr9rovI= Original-Received: by 10.210.109.10 with SMTP id h10mr2472620ebc.22.1221335623317; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 12:53:43 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from tux.homenetwork ( [77.197.77.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm15773368eyh.2.2008.09.13.12.53.41 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 13 Sep 2008 12:53:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <38b2ab8a0809131214j5a956616l518b8a609e74f72a@mail.gmail.com> (Francis Moreau's message of "Sat, 13 Sep 2008 21:14:24 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:57537 Archived-At: "Francis Moreau" writes: > Hello, > > On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 7:32 PM, Thierry Volpiatto > wrote: >> Did you try using a window manager that work correctly with emacs+shell >> like stumpwm or rat-poison. >> I am using stumpwm and i am really happy with it. >> I can switch to a shell at anytime just like in emacs. >> > > No I haven't and I don't think I will have some spare time to try them. > > For now I'm using Screen with emacs and it works ok. > >> Have also a look at eev:(you may like that if you are a fan of shell) >> >> http://angg.twu.net/eev-article.html >> >> and try to eval from anywhere in emacs (C-x C-e) for example: >> >> (find-sh "ps -u $USER | grep emacs | awk '{print $1}'") >> > > Interesting thanks. > >> Try also to use M-x ansi-term that is much better than term. > > I haven't seen any differences. Maybe because they both use an > 'eterm-color' terminal. > >> You can run many shell in emacs and more. > > That's the problem I think. > > Too many way to achieve the main goal. > Why not doing one implementation and doing it well ? No, what i mean is that with M-x term, you can run only one shell. with ansi-term you can start more than one. *ansi-term*<2> *ansi-term*<3> etc... -- A + Thierry Volpiatto Location: Saint-Cyr-Sur-Mer - France